Hey guys, it's me again. Long post incoming!

Okay, tonight was bar none one of the greatest nights of my life. For the first time I had the guts to go out in an unknown social situation (a girl's house) and really carry out a conversation. She gave me her number and we decided to study with some classmates a couple of days ago. I did my best to try to build attraction (like before and during class), but I wasn't happy at all.

After tonight (where I spent 5+ hours at her house) I feel so fucking confident I can't even explain it. I can't even begin to thank the community that encourages so many people (myself included) and the inspirational stories I read here daily that motivated me to become on the outside what I always knew I had on the inside! Although I'm still far from becoming a PUA, my progress is indubitable.

Okay, the night started at around 6 with me arriving at this girl's place. No one else showed up so we just talked for 1:30hr. Honestly, this was really a Godsend since I worked so hard on conversing, being interesting, having the right amount of negs and jokes and the right amount of seriousness. I can tell she's really into me. She's an HB6-7 (although she has an amazing ass so maybe a bit higher). I've always had a tough time with smalltalk, but this hour and thirty-minute session really helped me calibrate myself and also helped me try to push some limits (like negging, a bit of sexual talk, being a tad bit cocky/funny) which I've never pushed before with any female. After the hour thirty minutes, another guy showed up. This guy "looked" alpha (he works out and he's pretty good looking), but I could tell how much of an AFC he was. I was so happy that I could point out every mistake he was making and what I would have done instead. As the night progressed, I started to understand the concepts of calibration, comfort-building, and rapport.

The other guy also bought some booze, but we didn't start drinking because we wanted to study. I pretty much taught them the material (hell, I didn't need to study anyway) which I think impressed her. We later went out to grab some food, and in Wendy's I was specifically trying to work on my body language, turning away, almost making her beg for my attention (the other guy was really boring and not fun at all).

When we got back to her place, her roommate was in (a very skinny HB7 blond). I decided to try to game her a little and negged her, joked about the fact that she's a hippie (she had a Greenpeace sticker on her laptop) and tried to make eye contact as much as I could. To be honest, I think she was into me too. Or at least she thought I was fun.

I decided to leave at 11:30 after 1 shot (I didn't want to drive drunk since I find it utterly retarded). I decided to ignore the girls and I shook the guy's hand and made it clear he's a cool dude and I had fun hanging out with him, but I just waved at the girls and told them I'd see them around.

After I walked out, it turns out there was a gate at her apartment complex (and I thought it was locked). I call the girl and I'm like "hey about the gate... I might need some help" -- she goes "okay, I'll be right out", like 2minutes later, someone opens the gate for me so I call her back "hey sorry, someone got the gate, thanks though" -- her reply was a bit pissed (not sure if it was sarcastic, hard to tell over the phone) "oh pshh, no problem, see ya, bye."

I walked to my car and drove home!

Now, I have a couple of questions so please bear with me

1. In a situation like I was in, should I escalate earlier (physically) and if so, how should I do it?
2. I was very careful with sexual jokes as I come from a very conservative family and I have no idea what would offend other people (my jokes would sure as hell offend my family). How should I gauge this? How important is sexuality in the situation I explained. I know according to Gunwitch, It's paramount... but I'm open to other opinions.
3. Is it smart that I didn't try to hug or shake hands with the girls at the end? I thought it would be a DHV because it would say: "I don't care if you're a female, you weren't cool enough, you need to prove how cool you are next time!" Am I wrong?
4. Is it smart that I didn't want to drink much and that I even stated that I rarely drink (which is true)? How do females view that?
5. The last part with the phone: it kind of seemed she WANTED to be outside alone with me (away from the other guy in our class and her roommate). Maybe I'm reading too much into this? She just seemed disappointed or at least distraught when I didn't need her anymore.
6. What do you suggest I do next time. How can I improve my game? I feel fucking amazing, like I said, but I have this feeling that I could be SO much better! Any advice is welcome!

Edit: And I just want to say, for any newbies (like me) that are reading this. The pros are right. It doesn't matter how much information you read, how many videos you see or how much money you spend on bootcamps; five seconds with a woman is worth five hours reading pick-up

Well done bro, sounds like your making steps in the right direction! That's what it's all about gaining confidence with women, and it comes naturally! Keep it up!

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Hey well done on the FR,

To give my answers to some of your questions, by the way this is what I do and i'm sure there will be people who disagree but here goes.

To physically escalate i start by just basically touching them. Whether its a playful poke while teasing them or a touch on the back while asking a question, its all good. Just build it up from there to doing stuff like playfully messing their hair.

With sexual jokes I like to suddenly change the pace as i go, i'd be very mannered about it to start then suddenly say something filthy then go back to being reserved about it.

You should've at least hugged the girls, the whole point of negging is that later on you do qualify them and you didnt do that from what I've read.

Not drinking isn't a big deal so long as you make it your decision. I would take it as an IOI if I was being encouraged to drink by a girl - probably say something smart like "you only want me drunk so you can try and get in my pants!"

The gate thing could have been anything but you could've waited in your car with the window at the gate til she came out then see where it went from there.

You're so doing the right stuff, just do it all again the nexr time you see her.

Well done again - one of the best feelings ever eh? Unbreakable

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Yeh def dude, toungue in cheek sexual jokes etc are always a good way as they will relate those feelings toward u and think of sex... with u.... but its only a joke ur not trying to fuck her right x

Escalate by high fiving her for stuff that you approve of or think is cool , then later upgrade her to a hug, state "youve been upgraded to a hug" ( which you can later downgrade her back to a highfive ) and make her qualify her self to earn a hug again.

With sexual jokes dont go overboard with them but at the same time you need to go in there with a (Who fucking cares attitude and dont give a shit if you offend anyone)
If she calls you dirty reply with "well how do you know i implied the joke that way ...... maybe its YOU with the dirty mind"


I would of hugged her and then told her shes a shit hugger and that she needs lessons on how to hug propally

In a way its the norm that most students drink , thoose who go out all the time drink and by saying that you dont drink that much may imply that you dont go out that much , If you generally dont drink lie and say you dont drink because your actually in training for a boxing match or something! BUT nevertheless you were still honest which has probably got you some brownie points and got you further into her trust zone

With number 5 , who gives a shit ! dont apologize act like it was nothing

With next time i would just go about how YOU think you should do it as we all learn from trial and error and this is the only true way to learn. At the moment you seem to be doing a fine job .Just slow everything down (vocal tone body movements) and look at her in a sexual way Its not what you say Its how you say and what you do ! If you ever get scared of fucking it up always remember theirs like 2.3 billion women out there that's 2,300,000,000 : 1 why is she the perfect pussy ?

Thanks for the replies guys! Haha, I'm very new to the community, but it's just amazing to see people supporting each other in such a friendly and brotherly way!

sharkbait, thanks for your advice! That's a great idea. The hair thing, I'll make SURE I try that next occasion I get!
This seems like it's more of a practiced skill, so I'll do my best to "test the waters" so to speak with a sexual joke here and there.
Yeah, I really wanted to, but I just wasn't sure of myself and it's just a testament that I still have a lot to work on. Would I just be like "aahh come here give me a hug before I leave, you two have been great tonight!" .. or something like that? I'm not looking for specific lines (I stay away from canned material as much as possible), just some guidelines.
Awesome idea, I should have definitely said that. I'll have to remember something similar for next time. It's also a great way to sexualize the discussion.
Yeah, I was just confused and wasn't sure if I should just wait for her and be like "I just got you out here to have you all to myself" or something similar, but I decided against it probably because I'm just not at that level yet.
Yeah man, abso-fucking-lutely!! To be honest, I'm still in shock (12+ hours later haha) that I actually went through with it and that I felt great and that I'm making progress.

zappo, thanks for your advice as well!
The high-five is a great way to ease her in a hug. I should have thought of that.. it's totally innocent, too. Thanks!
Yeah, I was doing my best to have a "who gives a fuck" attitude, and I think I did pretty well, but I do need to push the envelope farther, I think you're 100% correct.
Well I said I can't drink because I need to drive and go home and wake up early because I volunteer (and gotta wake up at 6) -- which is true, so I was totally congruent -- they both seemed impressed like "OMG that's so nice blah blah". So I think I played it decently well.
Yeah, maybe my "sorry" was misplaced.. I just kind of blurted it out, I should have been more alpha about it. I thought of ways to have turned that situation around once I got home
Exactly. To be honest, I'm not super attracted to either of them (I wouldn't mind fucking them), but I did this more to improve my conversational skills and to get out of my comfort zone. And so far it's been great. Women aren't that hard to talk to. I think I was pretty fun (hell, I found MYSELF fun which I rarely do), I also threw some trivia here and there (I'm naturally a smart and educated guy) and they often seemed impressed. Again, I can't 100% gauge female reaction yet but I think I was definitely the life of the party, so to speak!

Thanks for the replies, keep'em coming, I'm making mental notes of everything!

Thx and will do

Don't know if bumping is allowed, but I could use some more advice =p

Dude no amount of feedback or analysis is going to prepare you for what's gonna happen in field. All you can do is go out again, do your best and then post about it....... Can you see a cycle starting here? lol

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What do u need more advice on at the moment.

u seem to be doing well. the more practice you have the easier all this becomes.

i have jokes that i use all the time to different people. not canned material but my jokes.

l cant actually think of any at the moment. but im sure u can pick stuff up on the way.

like: how does your bf put up with you. oh u dont have one well thats probably for the best.

also if you want to make sexual comments but not actually make them i would suggest you watch some frankie howard. he is fantastic for sexual inuendo without actually saying anything. he loves to look at the audience and say. u filthy buggers i didnt mean that.

anyway. my advice would be to chill out. calm down. go out and practice practice practice.

i tell myself all the time. women are the second most abundant resource on the planet. the first being rocks.

hope this helps.
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this is part of a text game i had today with a girl. im now setting up a date with her........... i do cocky funny quite well, but im still very far off being a pua.