how to be more of a badboy?

I can open, I can switch venues, but I always lose attraction.

and can someone point out some mistakes or improvement points from my last night's adventure.

for instance: Yesterday I opened a 4-set of girls. The opening was good, then I lead them to a club and show them around. On our way there the 4-set starts to split (maybe a group-shittest) 2 girls walk in the front, 2 girls walk deliberately 100 feet behind the first 2 girls. and I am walking 10 feet in front of the first 2 girls.
Why is that? Why dont they just stick together when I lead them around.

then 1 of them started like; Im hungry can we eat first?
so Im like ok cool, lets go to the Burger King over there.
2 girls order something, and I go up stairs with 2 girls claiming a place to eat. There I talk some, joke some, run routines.
But they did not seem too interested. One of them even starts yawning (lol)
The other girls come up, and join us with their burgers. They were foreign, so they were talking to each other in their language blocking me out of the convo. (How do you deal with this?)
When they finished their burgers and they went to the toilet we went outside again and I showed them around some more. We could not get into a club anymore because it was already 5 am and most clubs don't let anyone in by then anymore.
So in the end they were like we got to go, where are your friends?
I was like, okay are you guys going out again tonight ? can we exchange numbers?
then I got this lame excuse that their phone does not work in my country.
So then I asked for her email address, and she countered with "Im sorry I have got a boyfriend."


So then I asked plain honest; Well honestly I tried to pick you girls up. But obviously that didnt work. What do you think of me honestly? Like, I can rate a girl on a scale from 1 to 10. If you would rate me on a scale from 1 to 10, what number would I be?
She thought, and she said I would give you an 8. She said I was cute, but that I needed to be more of a badboy.

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Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

Just the fact that you posted this shows you care too much about the outcome. Women can sense this. You are probably just too try-hard. You don't have to change who you are, just change your perspective on what winning and failing is. Winning is not caring whether you get a number, a kiss or a lay, You're just playing to play. Losing is needing approval, the kiss, the smile, the pat on the back. The moment you say to yourself "I need this girl to like me", is the moment you go from being a PUA to an AFC. If you walked the girls into the club, said "nice to meet you guy's, I'll see you around" and walked away, they would have been all over you begging you not to leave them. The willingness to walk away is one of the most powerful tools you can ever apply. The more you don't need them, the more they feel they need you. Open, but don't care if it hooks. Neg, but don't care if she get's mad. Do a routine, but don't care if they get it. Play the game for the game, not for the outcome. Bruce Lee once said: "don't think of winning or losing the fight, and your tools that you have learned will strike when they are needed". Think about it. You know the openers and routines and sequences. Don't think about them hooking, just think about using them. The whole time you were hanging with those girls you could have been opening a dozen other sets. Don't mean to be long winded but you have to stop thinking that every set is special. Their not. These chicks are insecure humans just like you and me. If it hooks move on, if it doesn't...move on.

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"You can only get smarter by playing a smarter opponent" - Jake Green

Oh yeah, I think you should really start working on your inner game before you get into the outer. Just a thought. You have to have the inner going smoothly before the outer will truly work for you. Just a thought.

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Bro, I know this issue here.


I personally don't think it's anything to do with 'being more of a badboy'



It all comes down to the fact, that even though this was just a write up of what happened, it's clear to me, that you were trying wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard.
hey guys lemme lead you around wooo look at me, lets do this, lets do that. I don't mean to mock, but it was definitely trying way too hard, I don't want to throw these cliché terms around like "approval seeking" but it seems pretty clear what went wrong.

I'm in half a mind to say props on having the guts to ask the chicks what they thought didn't go right, but at the same time, this started to seem like less of a feedback thing, and more of an emotional 'what is wrong with me? am I good enough *sadface*' , and although I know at this point you wernt trying to pick them up, but it shows to me you still go a lot of needyness and need of approval, this will go with time if you start making an active effort to recognize your own self worth, and start linking it to reference points.


If you're not a 'bad boy', I wouldn't suggest trying to become one... I'm not so sure about this next point, but I feel certain 'personalities' develope from over a life time, and people who have it in them the 'bad boy' style, it's been built up from their whole life and experiences. I could teach you number of 'bad boy-esque' things to say, but if you said them you'd likely get a bad response, as it's not who YOU are.

The bad-boy image is just a niche, there are tonnes of other effective people to be, just removing your neediness and 'outcome dependancy' and you should be doing really well.

I mean, look at this, so these girls wernt into you? What good DID happen though, you know it yourself, these girls wernt 'into' you, yet you managed to lead them about all over the place, you fucking pimp.

Use that for one to know your skills aren't lacking as such for now, only your mindset.

Get your mindset sorted, and I'd put money on this all becoming soooo much easier for you. Rapid progression.







SITH, Great Bruce Lee quote. Very relevant, very spot on.






Much Love
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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Break people's windows, piss in church doors, swear at random strangers for kicks, beat the crap out of people for looking at your bird, sell drugs, hang around with bikers...

...the possibilities are endless!!!

But thats more a guideline to being a total prick, and no one is badder than a total prick maaaaan!