This should be an automatic NO, for most of everyone. DJ Fuji brought up a good topic about this, he asks, "Are you here to get the girl? or are you here to get the skill?"

The answer obviously, skill. Part of me have a hard time accepting the girls I'm not attracted to. I'm currently working very hard on this, so I can continue to gain experience and skill. Now back to my question, have you ever dated someone you have no interest in?

I know I'll get different answers, thanks for the input.

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Why waste the time, money and effort. Unless your dating her because your soo desperate for human contact. I personally would not be able to look at myself in the mirror if I did. There really is no advantage to dating a 4. You can't even use her as a pivot cuz she'd DLV you. If your doing it to better your skill its pretty despicable in my opinion. Skill is only gained when you conquer a challenge otherwise its just a routine.

"Life is too short to date fat chicks" - Hank Moody, Californication

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No, I wouldn't even kiss a 4.

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if she's a 4 to you, NO.

if she's a 4 to everybody else, but you think she's awesome... then YES.

who gives a fuck what other people think? if you're happy with here then fuck DHV cuz you're happy for now.

ehhhhhh no, just no.

(I answered this question one day as an experiment and this is my result)

A 4 usually doesn't get much attention so she's gonna want to have sex quicker and is gonna be a FREAK (in a good way) in bed in hopes that u stick with her...my opinion,YES!

If after a date or two u think she's not worth it,look at her as a friend. If she is a friend type to u,then u just made a new friend. One more number on ur contact list that can be used as a DHV to ur next target.

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why would you even want to fuck a four ? you can get 9s and 10s why would you even consider this ?

I think I should of reworded my question in a way LOL. Dating a 4 would be too extreme. I was being dogmatic, since most of the time I always considered that I should always be aiming for someone better, i.e 9s and 10s. I can live with an 8.

I found my answer. I understand now. That feeling of attraction to a girl, if I'm attracted I should just go for it. Even if she is not a 9 or 10. As long as I'm attracted. I can't believe it's that simple.

Anyways, thanks for all the response.

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I saw the video on the 21 convention when Dj fuji mentioned that (recommend watching) and what he meant by that was get the skill from approaches, not actually dating. For example, if you're using routines or openers, practicing your body language or your tonality.... it doesn't particularly matter who you try it on, its that you try it under pressure so that you'll be ready for that 9 or 10

I dont get that, practicing on a four, if your higher value than the girl your going for then.......shes gonna be attracted to you, whats the point trying to attract someone...thats already attracted.

Thats like neging a girls lipstick while shes sucking your....you get the idea...

I don't see the point in bothering with trying it on with girls I'm not attracted to. Whats the point?

I dont get that, practicing on a four, if your higher value than the girl your going for then.......shes gonna be attracted to you, whats the point trying to attract someone...thats already attracted.

Thats like neging a girls lipstick while shes sucking your....you get the idea...[/quote]

the way dj fuji meant it was for those who are still trying to acquire the basics. a warm up set if you will. i dont think he meant that you should spend a lot of time in that set, plus, it'll make that girl's day a lot better instantly. it'll also help your social proof if your approaching every group in the club if your going for adam's metagame approach so that if you want to go indirect to a hb10 they wont think you're hitting on them due to you talking to everyone, and they'll see you werent hitting on the 4 because you are higher value..... you're just a sociable guy.

Guys with no game get 4s easily...

This does NOT require skill...

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the way dj fuji meant it was for those who are still trying to acquire the basics. a warm up set if you will. i dont think he meant that you should spend a lot of time in that set, plus, it'll make that girl's day a lot better instantly. it'll also help your social proof if your approaching every group in the club if your going for adam's metagame approach so that if you want to go indirect to a hb10 they wont think you're hitting on them due to you talking to everyone, and they'll see you werent hitting on the 4 because you are higher value..... you're just a sociable guy.[/quote]

Depends. You may look sociable but also there is the risk of just looking like a guy thats opening all these girls in the hope of a shag, which some men will do.