I'm currently reading Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo, which is good. It's no The Game or The Mystery Method, but it has some great advice and fantastic lines.

DeAngelo and Mystery seem to agree with one another the majority of the time, but what I found odd is how different their theories on Kino Escalation are.

Mystery seems to believe that Kino should be initiated as soon as it is appropraite, or as soon as it will be appreciated, or else one will end up in the "Lets just be frineds zone". Deangelo claims that he does not touch the women at all, in the beggining. Although, he actually tells the women, "We can just be friends", because apparently it blows them away. A beautiful women never hears those words.

What do you guys think. When should kino start?

If you tell the girl first "Let's just be friends", they're likely to be so offended that they start liking you. One time I ended up liking a guy I had pretty much no interest in before simply because he asked for my friend's phone number. I was so insulted that I started judging her to me and what made her better, and then I started liking him cause I wanted his approval. Does that make sense?

I guess I'm not answering your question on time, I'm probably not the best person to answer this, but I guess when you're getting to know them but don't know everything about them yet? And if they say anything that denys you with the friends line counteract it?

When you want it to.

If you want to touch her, touch her. I don't mean 'if you want to grab her boob, then grab it'. Although, I have touched girls boobs before to judge their reactions, they act shocked, but because im not getting off on it, and they can tell im just 'testing' them, they seem to accept that I'm a bit 'edgy' or boundary testing. They never get offended or freak out.

However, touch her when you want to. Don't get trapped in your head about it, if you hesitate = looks dodgy = mega dodgy = girl thinks 'wtf'.

If you do it too quick, the same as before, don't rush it as if she will move away, it's gotta be done with no inhibition or hesitation, if youre going for a 'touch' fully go for it, if she moves away, don't react to it, just act normally.


But all in all, if you're not a 'touchy' guy, or you're not used to touching girls, just start touching them, any how, any way, get used to being naturally 'touchy feely'. It will help loads, though it may feel un natural at first.

If you become a more animated character, you can touch when turning to ask them a question, etc etc.

Don't think of kino in terms of 'strategies', I'm guessing you're already thinking in terms of routines/methods/tactics, fuck having to remember some '10 point panty dropping attraction building shadow hand kino technique'. There's no special strategy, or formula, or step by step way to touch girls to 'kino' them. Just touch them normally, you will find that the 'escalation' of it should happen naturally. If you're good enough at getting girls attracted, they will likely escalate you as well. I've found this with even the shyest of girls.

Hope this proves useful to you.



p.s: apologies if this sounds ranty/rambly, very drunk, but I still know what I'm talking about. Don't watch that.



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It didn't sound ranty or rambly. Great post. Especially the part about not hesitating.

This is how I go about it and I've had pretty solid results. Kino is important no matter what. It's what seperates you from being a friend or a lover. So when I move into a set high 5's and mini hugs are a must... just to break the touching ice. I game a bit and qualify her and then I would drop the "I think we'd be great friends" line. Now you said this, making yourself unavailable to her, which attracts her. So this doesn't mean you have to stop touching! She's actually be confused in what to do and you can lead her much easier.