I remember reading a line Tyler D used, 'I think i suround myself with women because im insecure, and by having so many around me i gain validation'

By saying this he is trying to convay preselection and show vunlerability(healthy emotions), but read it again...does the irony hit you?

Sometimes the perfectly planed line and routine can be completly the wrong idea, it shows you care too much, it shows that the interaction you are having means waaay to much to you.

Many people adress these issues a long time after they enter PU.

Someone would start of thinking, ill learn all the material, ill get laid constantly...then ill be happy, right?...WRONG

It takes either this, or the failure of a LTR for someone to realise their is a deeper issue, sometimes both (as in my case).

By learning all the methods, using them, sarging 7 nights a week, youll get laid, youll get confidant with women...but nothings changed, on the deeper level you are no different from the AFC you once were, only now you have all the routines and lines and smothness that will get you laid.

What happens when you do meet this perfect partner...she's not attracted to you, shes attracted to Mystery, David D, Tyler, Adam. Will you continuously run game on her throught your relationship, because thats why she's attracted you, If you drop the game her attraction for you will drop, so what do you do? be yourself, yourself is AFC and she is an HB10, will she stay with a needy, clingy AFC?....

When you start PU there are more things you are unhappy with than you may realise, sucess with women, or the lack of it, is just the most obvious to you and therfore the one you are most likley to adress.

So whats the solution,

'Long is the way; And hard, that out of hell leads up to light.'

Your sucess with women is simply a byproduct of fixing the underlying issue,
fixing this is more difficult than simply studying social interaction and learing methods for getting laid.

How do i become permantly more confident and increase my self worth, how do i become a natural, how do i get to a stage were i do not base my validation in the aproval of women, or anyone else for that matter, How can i be Myslef and be attractive to women.



After disscussing this with Rose it seems the Million Dollar question is,


How do i love myself more?


Each person will have a differnt view on how somone can do this.

There is no straightforward answer to this question, it varies from person to person, but each person answering this, is how you can better yourself and increase your self worth.

When I first started learning pick up, I started to get more and more success with women. I would use these routines and lines created by the famous PUA's and they would work.. But then I got to the point where I realised I had not changed myself. I covered up who I was. This meant that when I was faced with a situation that I had no canned material for, I had no idea what to do.

I came to a realisation that pick up is not about covering up who you are. Pick up is about IMPROVING who you are and being able to show YOUR best qualities, not those of the PUA's or movie stars I modelled myself after. This is what everyone needs to realise.. Instead of pretending to be an interesting person, actually become that interesting person. Build an interesting lifestyle. Look at what good qualities you have and learn to show them rather than pretending you have these qualities. It was only once I realised this that I became a happier person... It was only once I realised this that my success with women, and with everything else in life, started to improve dramatically.

i agree compleatly.most people who get into PUA get into it for all the wrong reasons.i myself havent ever had trouble with wemon.the only reason i got into it was because i wanted to see what more there was.how to make a girl feel better when ure with her

its not all about getting laid and posting ure dirty deeds on this site its about everyone learning and growing mentaly.

verry good post and thank you for what u have to say on this issue =]

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~remember were not just picking up girls.were building a better life.~mystery.