I'm in my 20's and I have never even kissed a girl, let alone had sex. I feel utterly depressed regarding the situation, is there any point in trying? I feel like I might have too many hang ups...

Just for the record, I'm not to fussed about the quantity of women I sleep with. Also I have some seriously unhealthy obsessions with teens/virginity, probably because I'm haunted by the memories of my youth and lack of experiences I feel I NEED to have. So can I only get the local whores or will I be able to alter my approach and selectively target nice girls and teens?

Mystery didn't get any sex until he was 23

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Every Saint has a Past, Every Sinner has a Future

Try forgetting about your past for a second. We've all had bad and good experiences in life and it shouldn't stop us from building a better future. Being optimistic makes you a stronger and more attractive/interesting person, so start with that and the rest will follow!

Of course you can do it bro!
No one here started with rock star level of success.

I was there one day, severally depressed, low self-esteeem and hopeless. I'm in the process of transformation, still not a master but I'm seeing the change.

You need to want a change and build to yourself a new life-style piece by piece. Begin learning PU theory, start working out, buy new clothes, create a new style, make new friends, go practice infield the theory you learned, etc.

You must be willing to fail so you can learn. Don't be afraid to try and learn. The world is your pickup lab.

The only thing that separates losers from winners is that losers didn't fail enough.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

Ofcourse you can, why not ? I'm not saying you will be a PUA after a week being on the forum, but i'm sure there are a lot of topics here that can help you step by step to become a PUA. There are some stupid basic things that i didn't know before (like using kino, negs, etc) and are actually so important, i learned a lot thanks to this forum you know... and i'm also a virgin (and 19 years old).

Just don't quit after your first tries, you most likely WILL get rejected couple of times by girls. But you must LEARN from those rejections, try to figure out what you should have done differently. And think of this: getting rejected is better than not doing anything, at least you had the balls and were able to overcome your fear to do it. Right ? Read topics, watch videos here. Even after being here for a few months i still learn new stuff. I'm not saying i am a PUA (yet), but now i am able to kiss a lot more girls and get a lot more interest from girls than before! Seriously, a lot more!

Good luck

first thing i would say is draw a line in the sand.... the past is the past move forward. secondly i would recommend getting over your obsession is it about the girl or the notion of purity (not to get religious or philosophical) because mentally you could argue that youre pure because youve never slept with anoyone youre looking for that in someone else as well, unless youre gonna date ugly girls or 16 year olds you aint gonna find it good looking girls in their late teens and early 20s unless they have a moral or religious objection!!!

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life sucks and then you die! deal with it

Just for the record I'm not intending to break the law - the AOC is 16 where I live and that suits me fine. But virginity is more meaningful with women - I want to be special/important to someone. I want to be apart of that moment which in my mind most people have had a taste of except me. Its nothing to do with 'purity' or anything, just the significance of it compared to a woman who's had lots of men.

As for the teen thing, I don't see anything wrong with it. Although I appreciate I need to take into consideration how big the girls Dad is.

And ugly/fat girls with low self esteem are defiantly acceptable targets for me. The concept has more value to me than how hot th girl is.

im just saying that dont get a hang up if they say theyve slept with a few guys,

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life sucks and then you die! deal with it

I recommend you check out Gunwitch method for free at www.gunwitch.com to solve these inner game problems.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

I'd have thought it far better to go for someone that you actually fancy. I couldn't sleep with or have relations with someone I didn't at least find physically attractive, emotional attraction of course coming with someone who I would be dating.

Personally I think this would be a self fulfilling prophecy, if you only sleep with girls who are ugly then you'll perceive that you can only win girls that are ugly. Why not go for the creme de la creme from the off, figure out what does and doesn't work and move on from there. Though I will recommend talking to the occaisional less attractive girl just as a means of seeing if you act any differently around them.

I didn't lose my virginity until I found Pick Up and the added bonus is though it was a one night stand, it was to a girl who was sober (as was I) whom I found physically attractive (incidently she also had a nice personality but not girlfriend material).

Also I find the whole idea of 'bitch shields' to be grossly exaggerated. Even in a club unless I have done something offensive, tried to move in on the dance floor when she wasn't interested or accidently said the wrong thing, I have never had a girl be a total bitch to me, same with on day game. And if she is a bitch then she's not worth the time or energy, but frankly, a total cow is in my experience, quite rare.

are you waiting for the one????????????

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life sucks and then you die! deal with it

Aren't we all?

Am I missing something here or doesn't everyone start off as a virgin ? I don't know of anyone that lost his virginity by birth. So yes, you can do it. The only one standing in between you and having daily sex is yourself. There are plenty of women out there that want to have sex with you. You are a product of evolution and therefore by design you have everything you need to attract women. And probably you do attract them but your bad thoughts are pushing them away from you. Look around you. Even the ugliest people alive have a girlfriend. You will see many people that you perceive as lower value than yourself having a girlfriend but you haven't. That is the ultimate proof that you are holding yourself up. Eventually, you will be able to pull of girls. But you have to believe in it. It will cost you some time. Forget it if you think you read a book and the next day you become a PUA. Building confidence is a long process. But if you start now and read about how to build confidence in an efficient way, you will get girls.

Learn this game,live this game,love this game,and sooner than u think, you will be fucking every female player in the game.

FUCK THE PAST! THIS IS UR REBIRTH!!!!!! LISTEN ABOUT PICK UP,READ ABOUT PICK UP,WATCH VIDEOS ABOUT PICK UP, AND THEN.......GO PICK UP!!!!!

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dont even think just do it!