If a girl tells me a story about a guy who has been following her around and hounding her all the time, is this her attempt at DHVing? She has given me SEVERAL IOI's before this. What is odd is that she also mentioned that she was talking to some guy for about ten minutes and then this other creepy guy showed up.

Is she trying to convey to me that she is a popular girl, by telling a story about all these guys?

Also, what are some other ways a girl will DHV?

its a shit test to se if you want her or not... most guys would say something like oh sorry for that im not like that at all actually and jump into her hoops.. then the attraction would go to hell ...

the best respons is iether to ignore that statement tottaly or respond with something like this: im sure they like to follow you around and stalk you but they are really nice guys really..

Wow, I never even thought of the Shit Test angle. Thanks man. At the time I didn't know how to respond, because it kind of caught me off gaurd.

Here are some responses I thought up. What do you think?

Next time he comes around, call me. I'll show up and act like your angry boyfriend.

dont do that iether women are like snakes... any small mistake and your out.. just ignore it and act like you dont really care... unless she asks you to help her... if she asks you to help her then say yes but ask something in return as well

most women are looking for this:

body language&kino

conversational topics(this can be a though nut and takes a lot of time to learn,im trying my best to learn it tough) your rejection rate will be very high until you learn to speak properly to women

what type of guy you are/women have diffrend taste depeding on what stage they are in thier life.if you learn to mind read them by experience then you can alter what you say and get more girls intrested,this can take years to learn and many many rejections until you learn

shit tests(how well you handle them,easy for me anyway)

Agreed with Tega, shit test for sure. Afterall why would she be trying to DHV when she already got your attention. Just don't give in by giving her the answer she wants i.e. ; 'I hate creepy guys, I'm not like that at all' (like Tega mentioned already). Could bounce the ball back by saying you have to go because you have a date.

Agree with both above guys, testing you but defo trying to DHV. Her telling you she has guys after her and telling you they are creeps shows this, she's trying to show she's something special too.

After she told me the story I said, "Well, I guess you just attract the oddball type", which I regret saying now, because I really feel like I need to start IOIing this girl.

She has given me SO MANY IOIs and I havn't given her any. Also, this girl isn't a 9 or a 10. I'm infatuated with her because she is completely my type, but I honestly don't know what most men would rate her. She is certainly not a knockout. Like I said she is just what I like.

How does this sound for an A3 routine?

"Do you want to know something about yourself? Everytime you wear your hair up you are a little defensive and have an attitude and everytime you were it down you are just sweet, lovable Jessica. You're lucky you're so cute with your hair down or I wouldn't stand for it."

Do you guys think it is nessesary/helpful to continue DHV spiking, during a comfort building conversation. What do girls what to talk about? Should I try and make them feel a large range of emotions or just talk about topics that girls find interesting? WHAT THE HELL DO GIRLS FIND INTERESTING? Social dynamics right? When I am around guys I just try to be as funny as possible, but when I'm around girls I have no idea what to say.

That's the thing. She does have my complete and utter attention, but I don't think she knows that. Everytime I see her I tease her and then begin talking to someone else. The last thing I want to do is telegraph to much interest. But I finally realized, that I am in A3 with her and it's time to qualify and build comfort. Also, I havn't done any kino, except for highfiving. I need to get on that as well.

All girls have the chance to be popular and approached by a lot of guys... Still yes some qualify themselves in this way.

It might have been a shit test but I think that it is more likely that she found that you seemed to know about social stuff and she wanted to tell you something interesting. You would agree that it was creepy and she can conclude that you are socially acceptable.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I think you're right man. If she was Shit Testing me, I think she would have told me the story in a somewhat arrogant tone, but she told it in a "I feel threatened by this" tone. She's a very sweet girl and not at all boastfull.

Good thing you realize what's going on since we can only conclude a small piece of it. You can start building rapport, but decide what way you want to go; a single lay or a full relationship. Totally up to you, eitherway I wish you the best of luck and sure let us know how it went.

She approached me today and playfully complained that I don't talk to her enough. She pretended to hit me with a few items that were laying around.

I said, " You act much freindlier when you wear your hair up." and she gave me a big smile.

How is this for a Kino Initiating move?

I say, "Do you have blue nail polish?". Grab her wrist and pull it towards me, to get a closer look at the nails. Then I say, " They are pretty, but I read that girls who wear blue nail polish are high maintenance."

I think its a nice little push/pull, right?

Oh yeah. She complained about being sick and I wanted to change the subject to something more positive, but I couldn't think of anything, so I said "What ever you do don't give me your germs."

God do I suck. Everytime I can't think of something to say I tease. Oh well. She took it nicely.