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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:38 pm 
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ya so last week i went to the mall with a friend. and right away i saw two girls and said hi and they said hi back. did this alot but it seems that alot of the time they either didnt hear me or just ignored me. tell me your thoughts..... thanks this is a really good exercise.

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I love the idea of this mission! I haven't done it yet but I'm posting here so I now have a commitment to come back and show that I've done it. I'm going to spend all week on this, saying hi to everyone I see and I'll get to the mall on the weekend.


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Hi
i have done the mission.
i did not have any problems, but i think that was because i just feel the anxiety when wanting to approach to a girl because i want to game her.
just saying "hi" or anything to random people is not that hard for me.
any advice about the anxiety prob with HBs?

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I did this last weekend...I have huge AA, first one, I was nervous, said it fast and turned away, real alpha male huh, haha.

I did it to enough chicks no higher than HB8's, no one I would really target, but I did it enough (over several hours and lunch on a patio), that I could walk up to anyone and strike up some sort of conversation with them, no matter how dumb it was. I still had a pit in my stumache and felt a dry mouth a little (felt I sweat profusely too), I Even through out a random opener or two I have read here...

I watched the pick up artist show on VH1 the other day (all episodes), and the one dude had a STUPID opener, something like. how are you, blah blah blah blah, I'm feeling on top of the world, my buddy and I just solved a caper like on oceans 11 and I feel great...I tried it, they laughed and ignored me, but I figured I would try and it and see if it was a magical trance saying or something, hahah!

One thing I noticed, Latino women gave me no attention, and 1 out of every 4 chicks ignored me, like wouldnt even acknowledge I existed.

I think I may try this at an actual mall soon, although I HATE malls, haha, I need to get some new digs anyway...

THANKS for the suggestion, not over my AA but I think if I keep doing it I will get over it.

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So yeah I went to the mall and said hi to a couple of girls. They stopped and had a nice 5 min conversation with me before I left.

Haha so the Next weekend I thought I'd try some conversations. I tried "My best female friend ditched me for her jerk boyfriend".

CRASH AND BURN!

They started conversation but were hella uncomfortable talking to me.

Finally I walked up to this one Australian girl. I asked "Can you laugh without smiling?"

Earlier I tried this to another lady and said backwards "can you smile without laughing" She smiled and laughed--At me! lol

But the Australian girl was cool. I got the digits. Score!

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i did this last weekend and would call it a moderate success. I am not scared of the hello, it is the mid game i freeze up in


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Hey. A mini field report for this exercise for anyone new to the forum, from an RAFC.

First things first, admit your an AFC. Otherwise, you wouldn't be here.

OK done that? The next step is called yourself an RAFC (basically a reformed AFC, ready to learn, and open to try new things). Good stuff, you're ready to roll.

I was working the other day, and I thought the perfect way to do this newbie mission was on the way to the local mall on my lunchbreak at work. I live in England, and I've seen a couple of guys comment on the fact that in England people are less friendly. This may be the case, but be the guy to help to change that! What's wrong with saying hello to people?

On the way there, I saw about 3 girls, the first of which who had headphones in and ignored me (HB4), the 2nd whom was suprised but sort of acknowledged me (HB5), and the third who completely blanked me who was about 30 (HB7 though..).

Anyway, from there you feel liberated from your old ways, of being unsociable and scared, and you just feel more confident. This enabled me to go into the mall and straight to a girls jewellry shop, to buy a lip piercing (my way to both signify a change in myself, and that I feel comfortable wearing that out, and also as a great peacocking idea).

Once I got straight in the shop I asked the assistant (HB7) for help on buying one, chatted to her for a bit, she recommended a certain pack, and recommended a colour etc. By the time I was out of the store, I realised that I would never go into a shop like that with so much confidence, and it felt great.

Anyway, I went into another store, chatted to an assistant (HB5) about different perfumes etc (don't worry, I know these are hired guns, but on my first exercise I'm chuffed with how well it went).

On the way home from work, I said 'hi' to different people (a few guys as well), a women jogging (got a wave back from her) etc etc. But just before my house I saw a HB7 walking chatting on the phone, and I thought why not say hi to her whilst she's on the phone, and said to myself, if I can say hi to her, then I can be a PUA, and I did it. She ignored it, but what the heck. I feel like I am on a new level now.

It was worth it for the few replies I got, and shows that people do say hi back sometimes - why not be the guy to say hi?! A great newbie mission, now onto the next level..

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Just did the newbie mission... it wasn't very hard at all (we just needed to say hi right?) After each hi the whole mission gets a tenfold easier. Most said hi/hello back, but some ignored or looked the other way.


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Hi all.

New to the forum, new to the game (somewhat)

Just got out of a long relationship and have had major trouble getting over it, decided its time to get out there and remind myself that it was her mistake, and to prove it to myself.

with that said, i stumbled onto this site yesterday, found the newbie mission, and decided to give it my all.

Circumstances of the field were not that great, but I did what I could.

Me and a friend went up to the local mall around 8:30, the mall closed at 9 so I didnt have much time to accomplish anything, but that was fine since this mission is all about just getting the hang of intial approach.

First walking into a clothing retail store, I saw a group of 3 girls, HB7 and HB8 and what looked to be there younger sister (kid young), I knew I wouldnt accomplish much as the kid would throw things out the window, but I figured why not.

Walked by but was not close, making sure to keep EC on the HB8, She didnt look until after I passed by, at which point my friend mentioned I was getting looked at. This built up the confidence to progress.

A few moments later, they walked by us (in an almost obvious attempt to get a better look at me) I created EC with the HB8 again, and she locked on with me as she walked passed. As they approached I gave a nice "How are yall doing" with a smile, she responded energetically with "doing great :)", HB7 muttered "fine", and the little girl dragged them off saying "bad."

Saw it coming, knew it would happen, and was satisfied with the results.

Second attempt was walking through the mall, spotted another HB8 working at a register in one of the shops. She was ringing a lady up. I walked by outside the store and kept EC just to see what would happen, sure enough she looked up and right at me for about 2 seconds, followed by looking away, and then a double take. This made me smile as I cought her attention, I smiled at her and gave a small wave and she responded in kind. If this wasnt a hired gun I would have considered returning, but I was happy with the result I got anyways.

other then that nothing much happened. It was a slow night, there were barely any targets (those were actually the only 2, i avoided anything that wasnt of interest to me, and anything that was with another man. figured start slow lol)

Anyways, this newbie mission is awesome. its changing how i feel and my overall mood. Every time I go out from this point forward im going to try to look my best and keep this mission going 24/7 until I'm ready for bigger and better.

I know I'm supposed to say hi to EVERY female that walks by, but Im altering this mission to suite my own needs. I feel fairly confident approaching girls that i feel are "sub par" but have always had trouble with any that catch my interest


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i failed also i went out last sunday with my best friend i tried saying hi but i just couldn't and the one girl i said hi to her boyfriend 6'5 and super huge wanted to kick my ass thak god my best friend was there i think i need to go to a mall across town and by myself cuz i think that would be the best way i can learn to have self confidence and don't have to rely on others for it.... in the other side my best friend didn't even had to approach girl he had 7 numbers just sitting down.... i think i need to stay away from him for a whole weekend so i can do this alone


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minor update from about a week ago:

Went to the mall with a female friend (NOT gaming) when it was almost closed. absolutely no one was there short of hired guns.

however, the one place we stopped at I figured I'd see what i can do with the newbie mission again, pretty good results this time.

stopped at a smothie joint in the food court, cute girl was working the counter. she was talking on her phone as we walked up, and stayed on as we looked around for what we wanted.

this prompted me to casually with a smirk say "you shouldnt be talking on the phone, thats not allowed im sure", she gave a small giggle and said she does it all the time. i continued with "this is unacceptable, i want to speak to your manager." again with the smirk

she smiled and responded with something about how her boss does it too

I continued conversation with her for the next 3-4 minutes while our smoothies were being made, sadly I decided not to persue further and simply walked off to sit at a table and drink with my friend. (idiot. idiot. idiot)

While sitting i kept noticing shed look over and stare at me. it happend a good 3-4 times during the 15 minutes we were sitting. my friend even called me out on it and said i shoudl go back over there, but i just wasnt feeling up to moving further than the newbie mission (i forget whybut i was in a bad mood)

i should go back ~.~

then last weekend we went out to a local club/bar. I played the newbie mission out pretty well, struck up a couple conversations and managed to pull attention away from my friend. he had some girl that he knew from somewhere all over him, but told me hes not interested and complained, so i decided to put gameface on. she wound up all over me. sadly she wasnt very attractive (HB3 maybe...her face was messed up) so i just let it die. also had a cougar show major attention to me at the end of the night (again, not worth it.)

I'm doing well with this but I need to figure out how to attract better ...quality...of women. so far im getting hot body fugly face, or whales with good personality, with the occasional HB9-10 but completely retarded.

other then that i've been keeping the newbie mission in mind. I randomly say hello to women as I walk by them, especially if they make eye contact with me. its helped pretty well with the initial hi, and ive managed to strike up a few small conversations.

no number closes yet, but its coming, i can feel it :)


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In my journey to becoming a master PUA this was my first step.

I went to the mall with the intent of saying hi and smiling to at least ten bitches. I also picked up some nice clothes.

It seemed like a easy job and i was pumped up thinking it would be nothing. Once i arrived and was in the mall, i actually felt strange and it seemed like it would be hard to even do this simple mission. I would not give up though and i eventually said hi to a cute girl walking by. My voice did not seem to work like i wanted to and i spoke very quiet and said hello. The girl ignored me. I did the same thing to the next few girls and realized that they most likely heard me but i was so soft and they chose to ignore me. I soon after raised my voice and made sure there was no way they could not hear me.

They would react in one of two ways most of the time. 1. They would be surprised and simply give a nice smile. 2. They would say hello back and smile.

After i got the hang of it, i felt so much more confident just after this simple test. I even neged a cute girl at the shoe store and she responded well, but i had no idea what to do after that. Gotta keep training.

Just this simple mission has improved my social confidence dramatically.


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New to this forum and come across this "newbie mission" at first I thought it was toolbag behavior, but i havent got any better way to start my pua traning and thought might be a constructive exercise.

To do the newbie mission i wanted to make sure i wouldnt bump into anyone i know or randomly say hi to someone who im likely to see in the future. As hereford (where i live) has a small population and low on HBs i used planned my newbie mission today, as i go to worcester (40 minute train ride) for an evening course on a tuesday.

I left my house at 5pmish, with a 30 minute walk to the train station i thought i may also bite the bullet and say "hi" to any HBs on the way. the road to town is relitively straight and i can see any approaching HB coming at a distance, increasing my AA However 5 mins into my walk a HB8.5 blonde indie came out from one of the side roads right in front of me! I made the excuse "cant do it if im behind her". so i carried on. couple of men/older people walk by, then HB6.5 came towards me. I preped myself and thought that i would do it, so i "alpha'd" my body language up, smiled and waited for eye contact...that never came.
Didnt seen any HB for another 15 mins! drrrry as fcuk
the next HB was in a two set HBblonde and HB8 brunette i made eye contact with her as she walked passed i gave her a smile, she looked away and smiled quite sexually i thought! so i was pump after that but still couldnt grab my cohonies and force a hi. made it past the train station smiling at HBs without them giving eye contact like a tool.

at the station i felt a little down, but determined to say hi atleast once today, at the ticket booth an elderly gentleman started a conversation with me, we talked about the party leaders to the current UK election campaign. we both agreed how they are all "tossers". that exchange settle my mind and nerves and made me realise how frantic i was getting about just saying Hi to a stranger, when i could perfectly engage in conversation with a stranger.

the train ride was also dry HBs didnt walk my way at all. so when i got to worcester i descided walking down the first street that i would say something to the next hb that walked past no matter what! so a HB7 walked towards me from a side road but was to far to make contact with and hb's across the road, then all of a sudden 20 feet infront of me a friken HB9 leggy blonde tight jeans dynamite boomting came my way. I was thinking, shit shit, then fuck it im doing. so she got 5 feet in front of me i smiled, didnt wait for her to look at me and i said with a perfect, unprecedented "hey". HB9 leggy blonde tight jeans dynamite boomting looked down and gave me nothing. immediately i felt like a dick and thought why the fuck did i do that? but then i thought shit that was easy. im gunna try it again to se if i get a more positive response. but saw no other HB on my way to college.

I did later in fact have repore with HB7 barmaid in a pub

HB7: hey
Wordworth: hi there
HB7: wanna drink
Wordsworth: that would be good
HB7:ok, what do you want?
Wordsworth: i dunno what do you think i should have
HB7: (smiling) um i dunno, anything...lager
Wordworth: yes of course larger, what brand?
HB7: ha umm, stella, carling, forsters?
Wordsworth: Ok...Carlsberg
HB7:*giggle*

I managed to build attraction and neg but my games not yet strong enough to escalate anything.

I've also decided to try the "newbie mission" again but a place with frequent supply of HB's so i can forget quickly about negative responses. College lunch time, the walk to town, the exodus of HB
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im young enough to pass as a college student and will take my bag as a prop.

I am new to this forum so any reply and advice PM what ever would be super helpful!

Wordsworth
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Newbie Mission Report:

Okay, today I had to go out to a job interview, so I got dressed up in some nice duds, went to the salon for a hair cut, then off to try an charm-up a job. Afterwards, I headed to the mall to work on the mission while I was still dressed to the nines.

Made a conscious effort to say "hello" to at least every third woman I met. That way, I didn't look like a total goof saying "hi" to every Al, Bud and Charlie in the place. Made sure to concentrate on my posture, kept my movements slow and deliberate.

Also focused on eye-contact, my current weakness. I have an unconscious need to look away from someone looking at me (male or female), and have been working hard for the past half year to kill this bad motivation. Used the eye-contact triangle from Pease's "Body Language" book, making sure to spend at least one second on each point, and to form at least three "triangles" before looking away (never look down though!). Something that helps me is to focus on making sure I can remember the color of the person's eyes....making that mental connection with the memory of the person really helps for me.

First ten minutes were nerve-racking! I found myself grinding my teeth after 5 minutes! After that, the tension finally dissipated enough that I could focus on the activity better. Looking back, I think my biggest issue is over-analyzing the situation before taking action, and paralyzing myself with fear before I even start. I can now see the benefit from the "3 Second Rule" to approaching that you guys talk about. Forcing myself through my nervousness also worked against me, as mentally fighting against your own behavior just distracted me from the task at hand.

Anyway, after having the initial social anxiety pass, continued to duck in-and-out of the stores, acting like I'm window-shopping, saying "hello!" to all the pretty ladies. Got mistaken for the hired help more than once due to my cheery attitude and attire (remember, I was in dress shirt and slacks)! However, after the 2nd time this happened, I used this as an opportunity to try and converse a little (not more than four or five sentences, unfortunately). Continued on for about 40 minutes after visiting all the stores, then went home.

Phew! Mentally exhausted. Don't know if it was from the anxiety attack I had in the beginning, or if it was from the lack of social interaction and my social muscles are a little out of shape (probably a bit of both). Yes, I do have a serious case of social anxiety, but this is something I've been working on for a few months now, so believe it or not, I was actually at a worse state 6 months ago than this! Definitely need to stop over-analyzing social situations and "just do it". This is gonna be a long, hard road. :?


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Okay, because I had problems with the Newbie Mission, I decided I should go and do a re-do. Went out to another mall, dressed decently. Although I had a bit more confidence and was able to relax much more quickly going into the mission, I still had a bad case of the nerves at the beginning (no teeth grinding though!), taking me 5-10 minutes before I can calm down enough to focus. Notice that this is happening with both guys and gals, just saying, "Hi, you wouldn't happen to have the time, would you?" or some such nonsense. I'm communicating at most 3 sentences, and I'm still feeling like I'm a step or two away from locking up with fear. :(

I've always had issues with shyness and social anxiety, so I know this isn't going to go away overnight. Still, I was expecting a little more perceptible improvement than what I ended up with. Until I start getting a handle on this, I'm going to have to put pickup training on hold and focus on knocking out this social anxiety problem I'm battling. Until then, I'm going to limit my posts to the "Approach" and "Social Shyness" forums so as to concentrate my energies where they are needed most.


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