Litterally.

Most girls, like 90% goes to a club or bar to socialize themselve. I live in the country were love systems coaches claims having the highest bitchshield ever. I had problems believing that, still I did encounter some. But now... I kind off forgot what it is.

PUA's are experts on making bullshit explanation and theories for explaining why things happen.
I've even heard some girls got bitchshield because the dude isn't high value enought? I mean come on lol!

Some claims they do so because of satisfieng their ego?
Well I can believe so, but this is often less attractive girls.

Okey here is my view on bitchshield:
I have no scientifique facts or anything to back this up. At least i promise not using any stupid self help gurus in here for backing up my facts.

So I have been hanging in gay clubs a lot recently (well now i sarge in cougar bars lol). I have been hit on a bit actually.
The fact that the guy comes over is great i enjoy that.
So I was kind toward them..
I am a kind person, I was really kind to these guys.
One big problem with men is their neediness. When I started out i couldn't really understand it. But when a gay dude hovered around me asking me if i wanted a drink fucking 7 times when i said no each fucking time, I understood what neediness was all about. It was fucking annoying. Especially when you are not attracted to that person.

Later on some guys started talking to me, I was kind, and all of the sudden, just because I am not bitchy like all the other gayguys (gayguys got bitchshield!!!) the dude thought i was into him, jsut because I wasn't a bitch. Well what happened? The dude stalked me for all night!
He tried to get my attention on the dancefloor all the time, each time i was facing him he tried to force a high five. It was very annoying.

Similare stories happened all the time.

Well, I now don't act like a bitch, i just tell them sorry i am not interested because i am hetero.
So this is why girls are bitchy.

When they are kind to you, they sign a deal where they allow you to stalk them. And they don't wanna sign that deal. So instead they they reject it. By acting bitchy.

So what do you do? Well show them you won't stalk them. What if they can feel you won't stalk them?
Look if a girl isn't really into you yet, she doesn't want you to stalk her or being needy. When it's on between you both, stay with her and escalate to the next level. She wants your prescence.

But before you reach that level, she doesn't want to "sign that paper " that says "stalk me baby" untill she knows she wants you to stalk her, in other words wants to be with you.

When you open, you have to look like potential guy. She must think "he is alright,i could fuck him" but that doesn't mean "he is the one i am fucking tonight". But she want's to feel she have the possibility to see what the rest of the night have to offer in term of guys (you just make her feel you allow her to check it out, but we all know that with you, it's win win right)

It's your role to make her think "I am the one she will fuck tonight" by escalating. But you can't do this if she rejects you. In order to not make her reject you or ask bitchy, just make her feel "free", by feeling you won't stalk her. No deal is signed.

So how do you without making her think you are just another stalker?

Well...

Breaking rapport.

The downside of breaking rapport is:
It kills the tension.

BUT!

What If you just said hi, and milked the intro and got minimal rapport?
Well then I say fuck that tension.

As long as you don't set a too powerful frame as you being a social dude, a clown or an entertainer... then you are great. You don't wanna be too social.

So what I do is...
Make my approaches into warm approaches. Setting up sexual frames and escalating is much easier in warm approaches. But it can still be hard when you know the person well enought. These are usually the case in warm approaches
So what do i do?
I warm approach strangers.

Sounds weird?

It's fucking easy!


Okey so here is the opener: (never failed on me so far!!! it will sooner or later)


Part 1: Hover/AI. This is good. In order to make your approach more warm try to get EC with a girl and lock in. When she looks at you just slighlty look away and then reengage with your eyes. Girls loves to feel that you got in touch all naturally. Fact is girls hate "icebreakers".

Part2: Approaching (cold): This is a cold approach. This mean you can get cold responses. You wanna do this shit as quick as possible. This part sucks. So what do you do?
Move up to the set. Put a hand on the girl you want and say hi..
Say hi to the whole group. Do not come in as a clown making animal noises like RSD junkies.
Come in as normal as possible.
Hi => introduction/handshake => milk the intro

If you get a good vibe from the get go... forget to follow the other steps. Start escalating, If no good vibe (smile/she is into you vibe) then read on.

Part3: Random social statement: Sounds fancy... just wanted to give it an "a la Richard la ruina name".
So it's easy as well. Just say something social.
"What's up"
"how you doing"
"How is your night"

Stay normal!!! and only ask this. Let them answer. If they ask you answer them.

part4: Then leave the set. You just came over, said hi, talked for a few sec and left. "He isn't a stalker, why do i need to be bitchy?" no it's not because you broke rapport and they see you as a prize that you don't get bitchshield. It's because you communicated that " i am not another lame stalker"

Make sure your you've vibed to the group which girl you are after. This is important. Which of them do you want? Of course if that doesn't work out with that girl, then you can always switch target later on. Just make sure you don't wanna make it too official (avoid doing it verbally. Non-verbal is safer for showing interest, especially early on, or in groups, daygame is something else)

After leaving:
Here you can see if your target is looking at you, and try to lock another good EC to create tension from distance. If not... well it doesn't matter.

Now walk around, and when you re-engage... it's a warm approach. Since they now know you!!!

Now you can deliver your usual game. In my case i will go sexual.

This was the tricky version, here is the simplified version. Go up, say hi, introduce yourself, eject, reopen... and blast them with your game

This opener is awesome when you are not in state and your ego is still weak... move up and say hi, introduce and leave... whoah that's not too much of a deal!

Here is why this is cool:
_ Requires no balls (almost)
_ Perfect when not in state
_ Doesn't set any negative frames (you don't get perceived as a tacky social guy)
_ Allows sexual frames
_ Removes bitchshield

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I like this, and it also takes almost all of the pressure off of approaching. If you're really nervous you can just remember that all you have to do is 2 simple steps and then eject only to come back if you feel like it, perhaps depending on their reactions and interest level

60 stresses leaving on a low note. It makes you seem more valuable and less chode if you simply walk away if she turns out being cold. When nothing is being said, she's just texting or looking around bored, just walk away. No need to say "Welp! nice meeting you! i'll see you around!" with a huge dorky smile. This mindset makes the approach that much easier, always knowing you can simply leave.

Theres a lot of great stuff in this post, nice stuff TVA...


Theres also some things I think are not so great....

If you communicate to the group you're after girlA and girlA ends up not into you, so you move onto girlB, they're not gonna wanna be second choice/backup nor exactly have much desire seeing you as a guy who gets rejected.


I prefer to flirt with them all, gives more options then.






The milk the opener thing too, you talk about them not wanting to sign a stalker thing, I like this metaphor by the way, but they often will make this decision VERY soon if you're gonna stalk or not, so how will milking the opener make them not think 'god this guy is gonna stick around.

This is why I like to push pull, interest/disinterest, but always very strong interest, then disinterest. It sets the frame as being you're a sexual guy who will rock their shit, but you can just as easily not give a shit about them and go elsewhere.






Nice post though, bro, a lot of amazing insight in here that I can relate with!



Keep up the good work.




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I like your post and get what you are saying about bitchshield as a stalking protection. But I have a diffrent view.

We agree on that the bitchshield is something that comes a result of girls wanting you to leave them the fuck alone.
But what if (I always do this) you just use you bodylanguage to signal you are walking away any second.

If Im not blown off the moment I open my mouth, talking to them and its game on, I allways make sure they see Im not getting comfortable standing beside them - on the countrary I turn my body away or look busy until the say something that interests me.
If they dont seem like high value people Im walking away.

And then if I run into them later, hopefully with some socialproof or with some other girl, its game on. But I wouldnt use it as a technique to game a certain girl, even if this might increase the chances of getting someone that night, I think its lowers the chanses of getting the one.

Im not saying talking, moving around is bad.

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You're talking about false take-aways / body rocking.




I think one thing, all of you people are seeming to forget...



Bitch shields and shit tests, especially shit tests, are massive IOI's!!! Girls do this to test you for integrety, they do it 'cause they like you and want to see if you can handle the shit they throw at you, if you can't, then they'll think you're a pussy and lose complete interest in you. Some do it because they're not sure if they like you, or they don't know why they do it, but if you 'pass' the shit tests. Then you're in a good good place. Fail... and what I've seen with one guy, he got ran completely into the ground. He got shit tested hard, and he couldn't handle it.

Shit tests are fun.



That is all.


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SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Isnt the bitch shield when you approach a girl and she tells you to fuck off?
How is this a test?

Just asking.

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Good post, I think the post is very positive and true, although the bitch shield can be broken in many ways. Building rapport is obviously important, but with every individaul, a rapport level is different same as a comfort zone. So that's when you have to look for more IOI's.

To get a girl out of her bitch shield, I try to use a few IOI's, 2-3 negs if possible, and push and pull, usually makes them feel comfortable, and obviously like your not after one thing, then I introduce natural game.

Again good post, a lot of people can take things from it.

Explained my success with some hotties, but it was completely subconciouss.

Will pay more attention to it in field.



cheerio

This is a very good post.

Its what a lot of guys do all the time.
Hi (have you had a nice day.) lots of smiles and walk away.
Many a time they will come over and open you afterwards.

But this does not work on HB 10's who have been hit on 20 times allready.
The key to bitch shield defence is in the sub - consious.
I have seen 5'6 HB Tens blow everything away through the bitch shield.
pick up artists, actors, good looking guys.
So so so what.
If you see 20 guys hit on her and she blows them of what chance do you have.

Maybe don't bother.
That is allowed you know.
Open people around her and have a good time.

Maybe a draw. Try again another day.

Learn.

Next time make sure you hit on her first with your female wing.

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I never get this principle of the 'bitch shield', the worst I get is some girls are quite receptive and open (the most common one) or they're a little on their guard but nothing you can't handle. The ones in my experience that have a bigger 'bitch shield' are a girl's friends rather than the girl herself.

I think the term 'shit test' is more appropriate though I hate the term. Sounds like something that comes out of an irritating frat boy. Yeuch!

You need to go out and start challenging that belief.


I was in a top end nightclub 'practising' dancefloor game, I deliberately targeted (mostly), the chicks who I saw blow out 5+ people, they all were highly receptive to my approach/game.


I thought I'd very likely just get blown out too, but I saw them blow out everyone else (kind of a defense plan for the ego), so I decided to bust on them. Also, to see if something works well enough that I'm the only person succeeding from approaching. Which is a better gage to be honest.


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Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Bitch shield? Fire the giggity goo torpedos! Some girls are just shy. I just skimmed this golden post and think some girls are aching for love. Maybe they just have dick on the side and don't wanna ruin it. I'm sleepy though, so I am off to dream of girls yet to cum.

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They do the bitch shield to protect themselves yes, but they also do it to screen for guys that are worth their time. Just plow through it, don't let it affect you. I've had girls tell me I'm a dick, tell me to fuck off etc. and still ended up getting with them. They know a weak, insecure, unconfident guy is going to be repelled by this behaviour, he'll take it personally and it will hurt him, he won't be able to handle it. If you don't give a fuck, just plow through, laugh at her like she's cute - as if it's your little 5 year old sister giving you shit - you can get there eventually because you've set yourself apart from most other guys who just walk away calling them "stuck up bitches".

Sure that will work on some occasions, but you forgot telling us how many times you got really blown out and got nowhere.

Using this you won't be chasing any bad sets. As you won't be creating even more resistance by trying to plow through the already existing resistance, eventually losing the set for good.

It simply is a safe and sure way warming up cold sets. If you want to be bold, sure. But when it's about effectiveness I prefer this over any bold move that would get the same results