So theres this girl in my school,kinda cute,but i basicaly can only talk to her during the break,its about 15 min.
Never really talked to her,but i get she looking at me once a while,who knows wtf that means,anyway,she seems to be little shy,some times she is alone at the break,and sometimes with her friends.

I read this in some thread,but cant remember exactly,the opener is something like.
"You look kinda lonely,so i decided to come talk to you".
What do you think?
Could you guys give me some other openers?
Also i read you shouldnt play routines,negs and this stuff on highschool game,its that really right?
and my biggest question,how time should i wait to try to kiss-close? 1 week? less?more?

I pretend to approach the girl next week,but need to plan this stuff first.
Thank you guys

smarpesh,

You are in the perfect situation to sarge this girl. Go ahead and use the 'you look lonely' line, it's a simple way to start talking to her. Furthermore, you don't even need to set up a false time constraint because you have a real one of getting to class! Thus you can eject whenever the conversation begins to die out so you keep the high value that you built up. When you're at the end of your fifteen minute break just say 'hey, give me your number. It was kind of fun talking to you and we can do it again when we both have more time'. And Voila, you got her number and you DHV. Then just move from there, call her a few days later and see if she wants to meet for coffee and keep pushing forward from that point on.

Hope that helped.

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<Jac>

Helped,but im not that good yet.
probably im gonna screw everything up,just trying it with no perspective of actually going alright.

I know it is hard for you to imagine highschool life after highschool, but trust me, highschool is NOTHING in terms of where you will be in 10 years. TALK TO HER, no game plan, fuck it, it is 15 minutes of time. Walk up, say hello, and start a conversation about why she is always hanging out by herself, if she does in fact hang out by herself.

Why are you worried? Who cares if shit goes horribly wrong, who cares if your reputation is trashed, who cares, it is highschool, you should have balls, you should have gusto, go fucking talk to her, you do not need openers. Highschool girls are just as insecure as you are, so halfway through the conversation drop a, "You're cute" line to gauge how she responds. DON'T OVER COMPLIMENT! Should be easy to tell if she is interested, hit on every girl you see, and by hit on I mean be playful, be alert, and be confident. Then let the chips fall as they may...

No offense bud, but it isn't helpful to think that you're going to screw up. How do you know unless you give it a shot? Furthermore, what's the worse that could happen? Even if you do crash and burn, nobody cares or judges you! Just pick yourself up and try again. If it fails you'll be just in the same position that you are in now. Thus it can't get worse! Go for it my friend and possibly some good will come out of it. But if you just say that 'you're not ready' then you'll never be unless you get out and try.

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Heres a little update.
For some reason,she is now going to other part of the school with a group of friends.
so now i have NO IDEA how to approach,if i go to that part of the school just to talk to her would be creepy right?,cause i never go there. Any tips of how can i handle her friends?
is that a good idea to stop her while she is walking? guess if im gonna stop her while she is walking im gonna need a more direct opener.
give a help,i was ready to do the move,but the game has changed, DAMN.

You can try and stop her while she's waking to the other part of the school. All you would need is some form of opinion opener. As she's walking past just ask, 'hey, can I get your opinion on something' and voila you're in a conversation. If you choose to talk to her when she's with a group a friends, an opinion opener would work nicely too! Just ask the whole group what their opinion is. Then after everyone's talking and having a good time, just ask the group if you could steal away their friend for a bit. If you're confident and funny they should just smile and say go right ahead. Then you can ask your target an opinion opener one on one, you could say 'you didn't want the rest of the group to hear.' Once more you're in a solo conversation with her. Give it a go bud, you have nothing to lose!

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<Jac>

Good lord, no, it is not creepy to go talk to a girl that you are interested in. It is creepy to over analyze and try and approach her after a few weeks of stalking. This is so easy it is crazy you are asking for openers, but I will give you one for both scenarios.

"WALKING DOWN HALL BY HERSELF"
- (You see her, she does or doesn't look at you, walk up to her.) "Hey, was wondering if you could help me real quick?"

-(Proceed with some bullshit that you need help with, directions to the principal's office, directions to the gym, directions to any fucking place on campus.)

If you can do this it should be pretty easy to lead into, what her name is, where she is going, if you can walk with her for a minute while you look for some bullshit location you made up, while you wait for a friend, while you wait for class, etc. Highschool girls will eat up any attention, will eat up any compliment, will eat out of your hand because most are insecure, have low self-esteem and need men to validate them, especially in the united states.

"WITH GROUP OF GIRLFRIENDS"
-Buy some cookies, buy about a dozen cookies, walk up to them, say you are doing a charity drive and were wondering if they could test the cookies out for you to make sure that the children won't get sick. Ask them what they are doing, chat them up, give yourself an exit. The whole idea behind talking to her while she is in her group of friends is it allows her a less stressful environment to see what kind of person you are. What does this do? Allows you to then open her freely anytime you see her. "HEY, how are you doing? Kids loved the cookies by the way. (Little does she know they were for your younger brother/sister, niece, nephew.) Then lead into the game that you should ALREADY be practicing. The whole idea here it to just TALK, talk to as many girls as you can, otherwise you are always going to be looking to one woman to make you feel complete, which isn't what we are trying to accomplish. We are trying to make you complete, and then look to share that with a woman.

This is really helping guys,i know im overthinking it,but i need something write down to make the approach.

SO Im thiking on use the mystery line "im trying so hard not to kiss you right now".
I didnt come up with anything better,should I wait for an answer,or say other thing?
The main problem is that our times never coincides,she leaves 1 hour before me,and dating in school is extremly forbidden.
So in the best scenario i would ask for her to wait me out of school for like an hour?
And should I Neg her?

The 'I'm trying so hard not to kiss you line' will only go well if you've built up some rapport. You haven't spoken to her so the chances are that you haven't built up any. Thus, use a lower risk opener so you don't appear to be a creeper, such as an opinion opener or situational opener. Furthermore, what do you mean it is forbidden to date in school? Also why does she have to wait for you after school, can't you just arrange a time to meet for coffee or something on the weekend? The clearer your details are the more people will be able to help you.

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<Jac>

well.
the principals of my school do not allow dating on school.
and i dont know,but isnt setting up a "date" a bit too "powerful"? Guys on schools dont usually go on dates for kissing them,just do it in some more private place.

So thats why i said that maybe she could wait for me finishing my class.

Hope it made it more clear.

You said you have never spoken to this girl, correct? Thus, the chances of you just going straight to getting a kiss close is rather unlikely. You have to talk to her and build rapport and then move to a kiss close, unless you're some PUA guru which I'm assuming you are not. The suggestion to take her on a date was to get you more time to build that rapport and the eventual kiss close. What you are posting makes it seem like that at your school people just randomly hook up in the hallways after they meet, I find this highly unlikely (But if it is in fact the case, how do I enroll?). Don't jump into trying to get the kiss close, try for a number close and build from there.

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<Jac>

How about you go TALK TO HER ASS FIRST! Then come back and give us details? Who GIVES A SHIT what the principal says? Unless it means you are going to be killed, it shouldn't matter. GO TALK TO HER, stop talking about bullshit openers, this isn't a fucking movie, you do NOT know her, you have NEVER talked to her, why the fuck would she want to kiss you? Jesus dude, go TALK TO HER!! That is your only fucking mission right now, to TALK! Now GO!

OKAAAAAAAY.
UPDATE.
I approach a girl,not the girl from the topic,but a girl,she was with her friends.
-hey,how are you? that point she looked at me strangely
then she tried to remeber my name.

after that,i asked if i could talk to her.
okay we walked some steps away from her friends,and i asked if she's got a boyfriend.
she answered,yeah,im seeing someone,and asked why i was asking that.
i just said,never mind.
she said okay,if you decide to tell me whats happening,i will be around.

I know it SUCKED,but believe or not,im proud of myself.

Not the best approach and set, but good job on getting the confidence to approach her. Keep trying and you might keep failing but keep trying none the less. Eventually you'll figure it out and succeed.

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