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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:21 pm 
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But won't she feel used after that?
WHAT DA FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

are you going to do something bad to her??? NO!!
and if it's going to be a relationship then I guess youre not going to have sex, yeah.. makes sense to me :?

...look man girls in general like sex as much (maybe even more then guys), and when youre going to have sex BOTH of you are going to enjoy it, and sex is also a big part of LOVE, it's not 2 separate things, actually they are kind of the same...

.. you are not going to RAPE her, youre going to make sweet sweet love to her..
and she is going to like it

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But won't she feel used after that?
WHAT DA FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

are you going to do something bad to her??? NO!!
and if it's going to be a relationship then I guess youre not going to have sex, yeah.. makes sense to me :?

...look man girls in general like sex as much (maybe even more then guys), and when youre going to have sex BOTH of you are going to enjoy it, and sex is also a big part of LOVE, it's not 2 separate things, actually they are kind of the same...

.. you are not going to RAPE her, youre going to make sweet sweet love to her..
and she is going to like it
Maybe it's just the difference between Americans and Europians.. I'm more the person that works to that things subtile.. You guys think I should just say lets go to your/mine place and fuck..


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Give it to him Streetlight(lol).

Every point you'd made was major.

Now Solution,I dont think it's much of a cultural thing why you say that Americans approach pic-up differently than Europeans.

I think it's more personal(ou hve beta-male mindset when it comes to getting the OYDYobject of your desire).

Another un-written fact:if you don't lay this girl-another guy will and is.

So with that in mind,you should go for the kill-in essence.

You don't gain points with women by not trying to lay her.

You drop points.She won't respect you for not trying to sleep with her if that's what you're trying to achieve.

It's a cold world seducing women.

You're depriving this woman of a good time.Give it to her.

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Give it to him Streetlight(lol).

Every point you'd made was major.

Now Solution,I dont think it's much of a cultural thing why you say that Americans approach pic-up differently than Europeans.

I think it's more personal(ou hve beta-male mindset when it comes to getting the OYDYobject of your desire).

Another un-written fact:if you don't lay this girl-another guy will and is.

So with that in mind,you should go for the kill-in essence.

You don't gain points with women by not trying to lay her.

You drop points.She won't respect you for not trying to sleep with her if that's what you're trying to achieve.

It's a cold world seducing women.

You're depriving this woman of a good time.Give it to her.
Oke maybe you guys are right.. Maybe I start playing the alfa when I need to close the deal..

It's a hole new experience for me to go further than this.. Done it once and that was like a year ago.. I suppose I waited too long that time also..


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... and for the record I'm not European, I'm half Ukraine half Belarus/Jew born in Russia.... Israeli... I've been living in Europe for half year DK and half year UK, now in Israel... (YEAH!!!! that sounds major)

I met only one American girl, and she was all over me after 10 min, it doesn't make sense to me...

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I just feel like Im fucking it up.. Today we spoke and teased each other again.. Kino and such.. She came and sat next to me in the last lesson..

I just hold back to get the date appointment done.. It's on friday but when I don't act quick I will loose this one.. I need someone to get angry at me or something because I just feel like shit..


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if it helps you I'm EXTREMELY ANGRY AT YOU !!!!!
stop doing this shit and ACT ALREADY!!!! you KNOW what and how to do and the girl likes you and you just invent excuse all around

this all "teased each other kino and such" talk worth NOTHING if you can't close the deal when you need to close the deal

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if it helps you I'm EXTREMELY ANGRY AT YOU !!!!!
stop doing this shit and ACT ALREADY!!!! you KNOW what and how to do and the girl likes you and you just invent excuse all around

this all "teased each other kino and such" talk worth NOTHING if you can't close the deal when you need to close the deal
Thanks! I wish someone could kick my ass.. But holland is too far away for most of you..

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if it helps you I'm EXTREMELY ANGRY AT YOU !!!!!
stop doing this shit and ACT ALREADY!!!! you KNOW what and how to do and the girl likes you and you just invent excuse all around

this all "teased each other kino and such" talk worth NOTHING if you can't close the deal when you need to close the deal
Thanks! I wish someone could kick my ass.. But holland is too far away for most of you..

Ill do everything I can.
Im in Holland next week so i can kick your ass lol, seriously man you got some great guys giving you advice here, so act on it!!

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Wrong fucking advice guys... Why are you expecting someone who has probably been indecisive all his life to suddenly grab on his balls and act on a girl who is sat waiting for him with her legs spread open? All it's gonna do is make him anxious because he FEELS he needs to do something... What happens when you give an anxious kid a basketball and expect him to take the winning shot?? And if you say to him... 'if you don't make this shot the team will lose the finals. But surlely you will make the shot because we've lowered the basket for you. So come on... Don't let the team down!' . . . See what this does... i bet the op is sweatin just reading that? Young man go out with this girl with NO agenda. That's right you heard right. Just have fun... Your probably two or three chicks away from becoming the person you desire.

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Wrong fucking advice guys... Why are you expecting someone who has probably been indecisive all his life to suddenly grab on his balls and act on a girl who is sat waiting for him with her legs spread open? All it's gonna do is make him anxious because he FEELS he needs to do something... What happens when you give an anxious kid a basketball and expect him to take the winning shot?? And if you say to him... 'if you don't make this shot the team will lose the finals. But surlely you will make the shot because we've lowered the basket for you. So come on... Don't let the team down!' . . . See what this does... i bet the op is sweatin just reading that? Young man go out with this girl with NO agenda. That's right you heard right. Just have fun... Your probably two or three chicks away from becoming the person you desire.
At least someone that has another opinion. I do get the feeling I need to do something and it is a must to do something.. You guys are all right. I should take action but it is laying pressure on me.

Update: The date is arranged. Tomorrow 17:00 and in the city where she lives.. (Bigger city) She told me she needed to see a physiotherapist at 20:00.. So the time won't be THAT big to go for the F-close.. Really depends on how progressing the evening is.

I am getting some mixed signals.. She isn't dropping that much IOI last days. When I talk to her about the date her body language really changes into being interested and when she sees me there is always a smile on her face.. Kino was little last days.. I don't know. I guess I already lost some interest because waiting too long and that was stupid.. Tonight a classmate (female) of us throws a party at her place.. Shell be there too.. Should I try to escalate till kissing or just give others more attention till she comes at me?


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I guess I already lost some interest because waiting too long and that was stupid..
..man you NEED the pressure , it's a mistake a lot of guys do and then eat their own guts later for not acting

it's better to act and screw up then waiting for the "right moment" to come
you need to create the right moment and then act

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I guess I already lost some interest because waiting too long and that was stupid..
..man you NEED the pressure , it's a mistake a lot of guys do and then eat their own guts later for not acting

it's better to act and screw up then waiting for the "right moment" to come
you need to create the right moment and then act
Well tonight at the party was alright.
She showed me she had a failed piercing between her tits.. lol :P
She was hungry and had some chips. I toke the bag.. Then she went and sat on my lap.. Was trying to hurt me to grind with some bone of her over mine..

Well see what tomorrow brings. Didn't lean in for the K-close.. She wanted me to stay but I have other things to do tomorrow so shell see me tomorrow..

Im glad for the support so far. It really helped me doing something I never thought really possible on my own.. Thanks


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look, it won't help looking for IOI's if when they are there you won't do something

I repeat it over and OVER and OVER !!!

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Date didn't happen. I texted her for the first time (got number from other classmate of mine) to the exact where place because we only talked global about in her city..

She didn't reacted.. send the message on Friday 12:00 and the date was supposed to happen at 17:00.. She still hasn't reacted.. Could have much reasons though.. I see her tomorrow but I don't know what to do.. I am a bit pissed.. Nobody standed for nothing at the meeting place but still I want this done.. Was definitely planning on kissing her on that date..

The Thursday night was obvious she was into me..


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