That's some impressive gymnastics.

But I'm not buying it at all.

I agree with Fin.

The mystery method is old, however for some guys its still efficient these days. Personally i don't believe in the Mystery Method nor will i ever do.

I've read The Game as 90% of the guys here on the forum, did i find it impressive or did i learn something, make that a big NO.

Hence, what are you trying to write down here that your a ethernal fanboy of the mm?

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Do you wear fuzzy hats?

This thread makes me lol.

Anyone who claims any method is the best or the be all end all is being silly.

The only thing which everyone agrees is a good foundation for every method (or lack of method) is "inner game". (interestingly though there are several methods for developing inner game... but thats another topic :-p )

All the rest is personal style and opinion... yes some are more effective then others for different things... but its all just personal style.

90% of the "methods" out there are the same idea - confidence, touching, negs, playful-cocky blah blah blah. The only thing that's different is the spin that someone puts on it. Calling routines and phases of attraction by different words does not make a style of pickup unique. Frankly, I only see there being two styles - the hypnotic/NLP style like Ross Jeffries and his followers and the playful-cocky styles like Mystery, Style, etc.

People like Mystery are popular because they put names to a lot of otherwise nebulous concepts. He has also reduced pickup to a Dungeon's and Dragon's-style rulebook that is easily understood by other geeks like him (not being harsh - he'll admit he was a geek).

"I got shot down by HB who says she 'has a boyfriend'? I'll just whip out my Level 10 Boyfriend Destroyer"

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Like OMG!1!1! Mystery method is just sooooooo amazoing@!@!!!

Okay, for serious, get real. Stop hugging Mysterys nuts.

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You've fallen into the same trap of the people you mock as 'fanboys'.

Totally rejecting the concept of MM and saying you didn't learn anything is no different to being a MM fanboy. You're one of the same.

MM isn't new anyway. It's a bunch of ideas men have been using for generations with or without knowing it. I gamed a girl when I was a younger man. At the time I had no idea about methods or PUA. Looking back some of it was classic 'MM' or what I called in the day 'The Rules' which I adhered too.

Either way the point is that MM isn't something to be rejected nor worshipped. What Mystery did so fantastically well was bring ideas together and make them marketable and fun! Nothing more nothing less.

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I lol'd

There are as many methods as there are PUAs. Anyone claiming that they are using exactly the method they were taught without modifications is still a rAFC.

Explanation: To mindlessly follow a method is stupid, something you do when you dont know what you are doing. To not mindlessly following a method means that you are developing your own game, more or less based on a number of methods.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I have only one method: My method.

You should only have one method: Your method

Listen to everyone and think about what they say, if it is useful, use it to improve yourself - not to completely change yourself.

I agree, however i always have the M3 Model in my head, the model seems pretty sound (for me anyway) A1-A3, Open, Female to Male interest, THEN male to female interest. It may sound silly, but that was a "lightbulb moment" for me.

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the MM is the most complete A to Z method. Im yet to come across another as detailed, well thought out and broken down as his. If there is one please let me know!

I lol at people who say they only use natural or seduction methods of pick up. You have all obviously read the MM and adapt your new methods from the MM, just like Buz said he does for example. dont deny it.
And if you havent read MM yet, I highly recommend it!!!!!

So what did I do before I even knew what PUA was?
But yes, I have read the MM and I probably have adapted my method to have some of the ideas from it. But that isn't what your topic is about, you stated "The MM is the only method"

well thats why i lol at them coz they mustnt of been very good UNTIL they learn what PUA was, AKA mystery method

Recently I read the "pickup artist" which is an updated and supposedly evolved version of the mystery method by mystery. love systems is still way more evolved then them.

Guys sometimes argue that the mystery method is more solid and show how other systems fit within the model. Their argument is that it must be the best model if all else falls into it.

The problem is that mystery didn't invent the model. The model is basically how it works but it isn't linear and the way they teach it in the mystery method from the mindsets, to the rules, to many of the outlooks just takes any chance a guy has to have inner game with women and butchers it.

Mystery belongs in a mental institution and he has been there in the past. Reading his book you can clearly understand why during parts of it. This man is not right. He is gifted with some very great talents and put a lot of time into the art of magic but he is not a good role model to learn from and not the way a guy should go to improve his success. At best you can steal some lines and come off cooler than you are for a while and trick some girls into bed.