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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:23 am 
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Yes, this is relevant to pickup. I read something the other day and it made me think about my current situation quite a bit.
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You don't sarge because you're afraid of hurting your little pride... Then, 1. You deny this. 2. You fabricate every possible reason why not sarging and not picking up and not doing ANYTHING is logical and reasonable.
I didn’t reply because I don’t make up reasons why not sarging is logical. It is perfectly logical, it just depends whether you think it’s worth it or not. However, there are always conflicting opinions so I decided to look at it from his view.

I’ve said before that I don’t sarge because to me, pulling on nights out is not really important. I am the only guy I know who relies on the day to meet new girls, be it girl friends of girl friends or the pretty girl in my seminar group that I decide to sit next to, and pull them during the daytime. I am seeing three girls at the minute, but he said I am using it as an excuse to not sarge. I then think of the cost v benefit analogy and then it hit me. There is no cost; the only cost is the loss of my pride. The only thing that is stopping me from seeing even more girls is my pride and time. I don’t want to push my comfort zone, simply because I don’t need to, but that itself is an excuse for not going out there right now and approaching five sets. I’ve always said I had AA and never actually seen it as a problem before, but now it is an issue as I want to start making progress.

Yes, I am happy with my life. I’m happy with that PUA has given me – I’ve come so much further as a person with it and for the better. I use PUA stuff during the day to great effect but I've felt that I can do more, just never pushed it as it's never bothered me.

I now have no money. When I’m drunk, there’s always plenty of funny/funner things to do than sarge, like dancing with people, wearing girls’ underwear round my flat or burning my pubes off in front of everyone. But now I need to save money for a railroad trip to Europe, so I’m going to be going out sober with a load of drunks, which isn’t going to be the best of fun all the time, so now, I have an abundance of time. I’ve spent it all having fun, doing crazy stuff that results in great comical stories (although occasionally the wrong side of the law) but now I guess I can’t use that reason or, as it was seen; an excuse either.

In the day, I’m confident that I have a good chance of attracting and seducing any girl I meet, but now I’m back at the start. A complete beginner. What is a realistic amount of sets to open/how many did you open when starting, bearing in mind I’m going to be with a lot of friends and can’t just disappear from them all night? Not sure it matters overmuch but I’m going to make sure I don’t come home without approaching five in a night to start with, and not just average/pretty girls, for some reason I don’t have a problem talking to them, it’s the really pretty ones I do have problems with.

Comments are welcome, will post again when I come up against real, recurring problems. Now that I’ve posted this I’m going to feel compelled to go through with it, now that I have no excuses either.
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I'm lazy so I'm not going to read all your post. I think your scared. If you really had more fun doing all those other things, then you wouldn't be here trying to get advice on pick up. The dude is probably right. If your can't over come your fear then you can't grow. On the other hand if you are HAPPY right now, then you don't need to.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:21 pm 
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trixsta goes sarging!

Yesterday, I opened no less than 8 girls! 4 of them were daytime situational openers which fizzled out because I got nervous and couldn't think of anything to say, and 4 on a night out.

The first bar one I got blown out big time and my mate pissed himself; i stuck my elbow out to catch her then turned to her to accuse her of feeling my arse, but the look of pure anger on her face startled me and stormed off! I was a bit down after that but realised that was the worst that could happen, and my mate was pissed so he probably forgot a minute later.

The next one was a warm approach, I talked to her friend that I knew before striking up conversation with her and got her number. The one after that I did a cold approach, I got the eye contact thing going on with this girl then talked to her fat friend for a bit who I didn;t know before turning to her and got her number.

I did a warm approach later in a club and eventually pulled her, got her number as well. Pretty sure all number are solid because unless you talk for a while or make an impact on them they'll probably forget who you are - trebles bars!

Pleased with myself. Looking forward to seeing how I do on Thursday. It's not much and the girls weren't amazingly beautiful but it's a start! If every night yields three solid numbers I'll be happy.


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Nice work getting out there and trying to make things happen!

First point, try and think about why your day game fizzled out more than your night game. It shouldn't be such a stark contrast. If you're running out of things to say, try easy questions that transition into DHV stories, and think about ways to get into qualification as early as possible. For example, something I might do during the day would go like this:

PUA: Hey do you know if there's a [clothes shop / cafe / whatever] around here?
HER: Yes I think it's over there...
PUA: Oh thanks a lot for being so helpful / friendly. [Body rock away, then back]
PUA: Actually, random question - how long have you lived in [London] for?
PUA: (You can cut her off before she answers if you like) The reason I ask is I've spent the last 6 years in the States studying and working (or you've just come back from holiday, or some simple little DHV like that) which was amazing, and I come back here to see this news article saying that [London] is one of the most unfriendly cities in the world. But, I dunno, I'm not sure if I buy that. Do you think it's an unfriendly or repressive place to live?
Her: (Whether she's moved here from somewhere else, or has lived here all her life, she will most likely have an opinion about this - this gives her an opportunity to talk and gives you a chance to be c+f and neg her a little about her story/opinion. You can easily open up other threads now, especially as she'll probably be intrigued about your travels and may well ask you about them. If you still run out you can return to the original thread like so:)
PUA: Yeah, I get what you mean. See, for me, what I love about living in London is I've met so many really cool people who were totally friendly, fun and spontaneous. I usually get on really well with those kinds of people. I don't know you that well, but I can already tell you're that way too. So, have you done anything random and spontaneous recently?
Her: (Hopefully another good long story about a trip she took or something, lots of opportunities to open new threads, to neg, etc. but also to qualify.)

With just that simple question of how long she's lived in the city, you open up the possibility of DHVing, qualifying, and opening up possible threads to keep the conversation going. You're also building compliance (now you're asking her to prove to you that she's friendly and spontaneous) and thus generating attraction through her investment in the interaction with you. Combine this with good body language and kino escalation at key spikes (i.e. when you're making a joke, when she tells you something funny or interesting) and you're well on your way to making a lasting impression and getting that number and a day 2.

Second point, you should be happy about getting numbers, but remember that the number is not the goal, and shouldn't been seen as more than it is - a way to continue the interaction, nothing more. Make sure you really have a connection before you get it, otherwise it's likely to be flakey. Another great way to make sure that momentum continues and she really remembers you and wants to hear from you again, is to send a random funny text within a few hours after you meet her, say in the cab on the way home. The more teasing, cocky and sexual (without being creepy!) you can make it, the better.

Hope that made sense. Happy sarging!
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trixsta goes sarging!

Yesterday, I opened no less than 8 girls! 4 of them were daytime situational openers which fizzled out because I got nervous and couldn't think of anything to say, and 4 on a night out.

The first bar one I got blown out big time and my mate pissed himself; i stuck my elbow out to catch her then turned to her to accuse her of feeling my arse, but the look of pure anger on her face startled me and stormed off! I was a bit down after that but realised that was the worst that could happen, and my mate was pissed so he probably forgot a minute later.

The next one was a warm approach, I talked to her friend that I knew before striking up conversation with her and got her number. The one after that I did a cold approach, I got the eye contact thing going on with this girl then talked to her fat friend for a bit who I didn;t know before turning to her and got her number.

I did a warm approach later in a club and eventually pulled her, got her number as well. Pretty sure all number are solid because unless you talk for a while or make an impact on them they'll probably forget who you are - trebles bars!

Pleased with myself. Looking forward to seeing how I do on Thursday. It's not much and the girls weren't amazingly beautiful but it's a start! If every night yields three solid numbers I'll be happy.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:11 pm 
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^^

Well played man, respect.

A word of caution though - do what you want man, do what you feel like. Tearing through cold set after cold set is not for everyone. "The game" in our usual anticipation of the meaning is not for everyone. Do what you want. But of course, when talking about matters that pertain to the game, your credibility may depend upon your "in-field" experience.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:14 am 
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Good Job trixsta. You not caring a damn and blazing through a cold set is impressive.

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trixsta goes sarging!.......... If every night yields three solid numbers I'll be happy.


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With just that simple question of how long she's lived in the city, you open up the possibility of DHVing, qualifying, and opening up possible threads to keep the conversation going. You're also building compliance (now you're asking her to prove to you that she's friendly and spontaneous) and thus generating attraction through her investment in the interaction with you. Combine this with good body language and kino escalation at key spikes (i.e. when you're making a joke, when she tells you something funny or interesting) and you're well on your way to making a lasting impression and getting that number and a day 2.

Second point, you should be happy about getting numbers, but remember that the number is not the goal, and shouldn't been seen as more than it is - a way to continue the interaction, nothing more. Make sure you really have a connection before you get it, otherwise it's likely to be flakey. Another great way to make sure that momentum continues and she really remembers you and wants to hear from you again, is to send a random funny text within a few hours after you meet her, say in the cab on the way home. The more teasing, cocky and sexual (without being creepy!) you can make it, the better.

Hope that made sense. Happy sarging!
That's a lot to think about when in field but I see what you mean. As with all things, it'll take time and practice.
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A word of caution though - do what you want man, do what you feel like.
Yeah I will do. At first I thought I'd be busy with set after set but I was still with my mates a lot of the time, I was away from them max an hour over the course of the whole night. I realised once I had actually opened I enjoyed myself and could just talk normally, and that the girl that I thought was scary was not actually that scary at all - she's just a normal person. Approaching is the scary bit.
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Good Job trixsta. You not caring a damn and blazing through a cold set is impressive.
Cheers man although I wouldn't say not caring! I was pretty wary but then I told myself that I can make conversation with anyone and no one will care what I do or what happens, only me.


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