I think looks only matter as far as looking after yourself. Grooming well etc. Also every guy could "get into shape" and get like, muscles and everything, with some hard work.

Obviously looks play a part. In something as complex as human interactions, EVERYTHING is some sort of a factor.. thats why relationships, and social actions are so hard to logically justify in every way, because essentially it is just a feeling.

I think the original purpose was to show that nothing except BAD PUA skills is an end all.

There are controllables, and there are uncontrollables. It is your duty as a PUA to have ALL of the controllables, well... under control...

And It's inspiring because no matter the uncontrollable cards you are dealt, you have an opportunity to be just as successful as others.

Money, Job, LOOKS, Car, Dick Size, and other accepted irrelevant stuff (or at least irrelevant as deemed by the PUA community) play at least some part in an interaction. Yes, to think that looks mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is ignorant. But I stand by my post.. I think looks, the way PUA's play the game are a strong form of natural peacocking..

And after the set has been opened, females tend to put other qualities in front of looks when deciphering their attraction to you.

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As a PUA, you must leave the girl better off than when you found her

Inspired by this post I have decided to go caveman for a week. No shaving allowed! Looking crappy all the time.
Just to show you that it doesnt matter... Not really. Of course it influences but you can compensate for it by having good inner game...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

"looks don't matter" is wishful thinking

doesn't mean that you have to be good looking to get good looking women but...

sure helps to be good looking

of course good looking + no personality will not usually get you very far

obviously personality is a real magic ingredient

ever seen a good looking girl in a club, who you thought... man she looks nice.... but that's about as far as your thoughts went.... until...

she starts doing crazy sexy shit like rolling her tongue around a maraschino cherry... posing for photos in the most sexy way possible... dancing in a way that makes your tongue hang out?

then, how do you feel about her? way more attracted, no?

well, to women, when a guy's got a sexy personality - it can turn them on too... if he's a lot of fun, flirty... witty... that kind of shit, it's magic

but will a hot girl sleep with a good looking guy with a run-of-the-mill personality? maybe... what about an unattractive guy with a run-of-the-mill personality? she'd probably have to be quite drunk

looks matter, of course they do

about the grooming thing.... if a guy is good looking it still doesn't matter that much what his haircut is, what he's wearing. Some might disagree with me on that statement. It might matter a tad, but it is not a big deal. Girls will still respond.

but for an average guy, probably it makes a bigger difference.

and remember too sometimes persistence works... girl might even sleep with a guy she's not attracted to, just because he's persistent. But then again, maybe the persistence thing makes her attracted to him in the end? If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? hmm...

Simple twist.

Looks matter less and less the further you progress in the game.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I do not get it.

The OP said he met the ugly dude 2 days ago. How could he claim the ugly dude gets laid and pulls hot girls EVERY time he goes to a club , yet he only met him 2 days ago.

Secondly , he sais nothing about how much that ugly dude gets rejected. I mean really , he goes to a girl in a club , and he closes every time ?

Thirdly , what does personality mean ? Like how can the average girl see that dude has a personality waaaay better than all the other guys in the club ?



And the most important , why did nobody asked anything about this thread ? Like really , you all beleive a story that has MAJOR contradictions and does not add up ?

With no offence to him, he is far from anything most women would ever consider handsom or sexy but at the same time, he gets more pussy than most classicaly handsom guys will ever get.

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Like really , he sees a guy for a few minutes , he then talks to him , and he believes that the ugly guy GETS MORE PUSSY THAN MOST CLASSICALY HANDSOM GUYS ??????? !!!!!!!!!

And he states that with confidence , as if he knew it for a fact. Well dude , to say that the ugly dude gets laid you have to watch him getting girls for at least one yer , in my humble opinion.

Okay here is my take, and i will steal a line from vitamin j and he is right on the money on this: Looks can compensate for lack of game, Game can compensate for lack of looks...

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