Over the last 2 weeks, I've had this HB8 over to my place to causally watch a movie.

It happens the same every time, I game, I neg, I DHV, she laughs, has a great time gives me IOI's, and I kino extensively..

I mean extensively.. I'm talking very sensual sweeps up and down her arm, had on her stomach, and I will massage her inner thigh. (specifically tonight)

But for some reason the K-close is still difficult, I will make the C, and brush her hair behind her ears, and kind of move her chin towards mine, but every time, she RESISTS!? I freeze out, go to the other side of the couch (start studying accounting... test tomorrow), and she comes over to my side, we get closer, start kino, kino escalate, and then... K-close... Resisted!? again...

Movie finishes, we both agree we need to study. She leaves as she walks out of the door, i grab her by her belt loops, twirl her around, and Boom... Super HOT make-out. No resistance, and she's into it.. tongue, she's feeling my chest, It's good, and would EASILY escalate, BUT, she's at the doorway on her way out!!!! LAMMMEEE..

Well you would think.. Next time I have her over it would be a different story! But it's happened three times... Extensive kino, on both sides.. solid game, and K-close rejection... Followed by a HUGE gratuitous make-out right before she leaves.. Like clock work.

I mean, I feel like my game is solid.. I've done this a hundred times with many different girls. and never had any problems.

Any problem recognition on my part/solutions to this issue?




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Quick background on the girl,

She is not a virgin, but is inexperienced, only having had sex with her ex boyfriend... I've made out with her at parties as well, and I know she's "kissed" other guys at parties etc..


Once again.. Anything I'm messing up, and Do you SUPER PUA'S have any solutions?

Cheers, and HAPPY gaming!

~Coffee

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Why do you think this is a problem? She's initially resisting to make shit more fun. If you DON'T think it's fun to create sexual tension like that, that might become a problem for you later down the road.

EDIT: I re-read your post and realized that it's only a problem because you don't have a chance to escalate past the make out since she's already leaving.

The way I see it, you have 2 options here. The first one would be to be MORE persistent about making out with her early on before she has to leave. Your second option would be to, as you make out with her in the doorway, lead her back to your bedroom by either leading her by the hand or cavemanning that shit by picking her up and carrying her.

I agree. Next time (which will probably be post spring break) I will attempt to give the K-close an earlier deadline.

I think part of the hesitation may come from the fact that she was actually watching the movie, I think I may just have her come over and hang out next time, and maybe just watch tv, or some show that doesn't require or even merit much attention.

I always pull the movie card, because girls seem completely cool with watching a movie, and coming over, whereas if I just said hang out, they might just not..

"I'm just about to pop in a movie, come keep me company" seems to work really well for me.

What other methods can you use to get girls to drive over to your place that are non threatening? Sometimes i feel like saying "Hang out" means "I wanna pounce you the second you get over here" which may be true. but any other ideas?

FUNNIEST K-CLOSE rejection ever:

As we were on the couch we were talking about magic (We were watching the prestige) and I was negging her, our faces were very close.. I forget exactly what I said, but It ended with me telling her to shut up, right as I went in for the K-close.. Our lips touched, but she like closed her lips, so I was basically touching skin, I pulled back to freeze her out, and she said "That's NOT how you go in for a kiss", I gave her a weird look, and she said "telling me to shut up".. I said "In a way, isn't that the BEST way to go in for a kiss"

Speechless.

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Negs, huh? Stop using them and see how much better that can work for you. Negging a girl can put her on the defensive and make her think "I can't wait til I get a chance to reject this guy since he's been bringing my value down this whole fucking time" even while she's smiling and laughing.

I actually just got back from a date tonight (well, not really "got back" since we ended up at my place in the end anyway), and this story might help you out a bit. While we were out, I talked about my Tarot cards to use as plausible deniability to pull her back to my place. She got excited about the idea so it worked. When we were at my place, we eventually got to watching a movie together. When I tried kissing her initially, she rejected it because, of course, she's not a "slut," right? I just kept persisting and tried again. Try number 2 was successful and we were making out. We didn't finish the movie.