No one likes them. It's harsh but it's reality. Well, most of us don't. Some of us are so desperate that we lower our standards to 3s and 4s just to get some. An example would be half the guys who went to my high school, mainly cause about 2% of the chicks who went there were actually hot. I'm not gonna care about those people though...

So many people on this forum have been saying - talk to ugly chicks to build your game. Oh really? I don't think so. It's just a waste of time and possibly a DLV.

In my experience, talking to an ugly chick is a different game. It's not even a game. Cause you (hopefully) don't give a shit how the conversation goes. There's little to no challenge. You have no motivation to flirt with her. Some say approaching ugly chicks eliminates AA. Bullshit. If you ask me, approaching a stranger is not the main cause for AA. Being intimidated by her beauty and not wanting to feel the pain of having a beautiful woman shoot you down is the main cause. Talking to random ugly chicks will probably eliminate your fear of talking to strangers, but it doesn't address the main issue behind AA. What the fuck's the point of talking to ugly chicks honestly?

When I talk to a hot chick. I can feel the sexual energy building inside me. And that sexual energy, combined with the right amount of confidence gets shit going. There's definitely motivation to flirt. I do care (even if it's ideal to not care) if the conversation ends well or goes sour. Hell, I'm hooked. And the best part? There's CHALLENGE. If I fuck up, I learn something. If I don't, I get some. Win win.

And to anyone who thinks I'm an asshole, well, I kinda am sometimes =p. Anyways I'm not saying ugly chicks shouldn't get the respect they deserve as human beings, just saying that they will do little or nothing to improve your game. The game is about HBs, not ugly chicks.

You have a point over there..
Talking to ugly girls is not a DLV unless you take it as a DLV
I think talking to ugly chicks is more to become more social skilled but not skilled in becoming good in PU..

Talking to ugly girls is a good basis and a good social training but not as total preparation for the 9's and 10's

I took it upon myself as a challenge a while back just to hit up on the ugly chic's ... I mean the nastiest and fugliest chics you've seen ... My goal was to overcome Approach Anxiety and it helped me alot and gave me experience with talking to women ... I mean they're still women rite!!??

Plus its a bonus when they broght their HB9 or HB10 best friends ... its also a good way to make them a little jealous and make them question themselves (Yes its a PUA Tactic) ...

"why is this handsome guy talking to my ugly friend and not to me!?"

I swear it happins alot of the time ... you can tell by their faces their thinking about that exact question...

IMO ... Ugly fugly girls are always good practice to brush up your game or try new things you've learned ... just keep that in mind and eventually you'll work up the courage to talk to attractive women.

Cheers!

I dont really care anymore. Ugly, what is ugly? Really terrible, that I cannot do either but if you just mean, not that attractive then she might be a very nice person. And yes, that does count!
I mean, man. You dont have to fuck everyone you talk to. Just talk to her, maybe she is an interesting conversation partner with a smoking hot friend!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

What many guys don't realize is how to make UG's work in your favor(, have a good time with them in a club and hotter girls will think: Why isnt he having that fun with me I'm much more hotter. (much like flipstar said, goodjob dude)

It also conveys you're not being judgemental about looks.

Girls are each others compitition aswell.

What I'm saying is: have as much fun as you possible can with everyone you meet, it'll work in your favor. Don't let your ego spoil it all.