Guys, I have the worst case of bb .
Damn, it hurts.

Tonight I hung out with a friend I havent seen in awhile, pretty cute little chick.
I'm in highschool btw, 17 and so is she.

This entire night I was completely ballsy, supremely confident in every way. So I don't really get where I went wrong. I was on, which has always resulted in a lay for me, but not tonight.


Were at my house and I start making out with her. Picked her up and put her on the bed, made out some more. Kissed her neck/collarbone area, then to her stomach, then back to making out. Teased her, pulling away when she went in to kiss me which she laughed at and then rammed her tongue down my throat. She was definitely turned on, breathing heavy, her legs wrapped around me, slight little sighs, pulling into me, swapping candy between our mouths, rubbing my head while I was kissing her belly.She felt comfortable with me touching her boobs, touched them lots indirectly. Took my shirt off. Did this for about 30 minutes.


Undid her belt, unbuttoned her pants, she seemed ok with it

Continued making out and went down to pull them off and she said she wasnt doing that. I jokingly said "Haha We'll see about that" while flipping her over and continuing to make out with her. She said she really wasnt and I just ignored it. Later, I put my finger to her lips and she bit it. I said "You're not doing it right" and she replied "Im not putting your dick in my mouth". Again, I playfully ignored it and continued. While sitting on top of me, she asked me a question she had been bugging me with all night long. I grinned, told her she talked too much, flipped her over, went to kiss her, and she turned away, grinning - teasing me like I did to her before.

She told me she wanted the question answered, I knew what it was and wasn't going to, so I went to the other bed and listened to some music. She came over a bit later and we kinda cuddled for a bit before she had to leave due to a sports game early in the morning.

Given that I did everything with complete confidence I take it as just a fluke, or not being persistent enough. This girls a virgin, and I know for a fact shes never had a guy be ballsy and take control like that, so that may be it.

We were planning to hang out tomorrow night but tonight I just told her maybe.

Should I just ignore her calls tomorrow?

I feel very in control, I know shes crazily attracted to me, and I'd like to persue a ltr with this girl - but not before having sex with her first. Relationships have always turned out better for me when they started with sex.

Maybe just dissapear and get her salivating over me for next weekend?
It seemed very different in nature than other girls LMR - it wasn't awkward or defensive at all. How am I supposed to deal with this mix of sexual inexperience and ASD-based LMR?

Damn, long ass post.
Off to ice my balls .

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Sounds like you had a great night friend.

I think you made all the right moves. High school girls are tricky because sometimes they just really want to stay a virgin. where as in college.. generally everyone has sex.. You can't force a girl to do this with you obviously, so your only choice is to stick to LMR rules: 2 steps forward 1 step back.

You teased her, which was good and I loved the part where you went to the other bed and listened to music.. (I can only hope it was Radiohead).

Don't ignore her texts, just basically keep doing what you're doing. keep the confidence up. This isn't a declaration, but just what I noticed in high school girls.. Which was only 3, and then a girlfriend (so that almost doesn't count) Is that they wear down. You keep the kissing and the seductive stuff, It will probably, not definitely, but probably progress further each time.

Some steps to counteract LMR.

Anticipate the ASD, and before she gives you the attitude, YOU stop the interaction and take the step back, then go two steps further, and same deal.. BEFORE she contests you doing anything, YOU stop, and then take a step back.

Maybe instead of trying to take her pants off, start by sticking the hand inside (just a thought) and then progressing. use smaller increments of advancements maybe.

Doing really good work though!

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I appreciate the input man.

How do I literally put that principle into practice?

If I'm making out with her do I just stop for a few minutes(doing what during this time?), then start again and go further?

I thought about that, but she was wearing tight jeans, I would've had to be forceful with it and I'm sure that would've broke state.

Man I hate inexperienced girls, guess I'll just have to teach her

yeah, just back it off, and start talking to her (maybe ask a random question, or tell her a random fact, or start a conversation.. Check some of my other posts about conversation techniques.).. Or if its a big move, after a bit, like go check your email, or turn on the music like you did. You seemed to do a good job.

As far as the pants thing, yeah just socially calibrate. keep everything casual and natural.

Last night, i had a girl over and I pulled this move. Not saying it's super cool.. it's just what i did

After we kissed, and made out for about 5 minutes or so, I unbuttoned her pants, but i didn't unzip.. Then we continued to make out, after a couple minutes, I unzipped, but i did not touch.. just continued to make out. I eventually put my hand on her stomach, than reached down. She was wearing tight jeans as well, so you don't have to go for the gold so to speak, just make her want more, keep kissing.. this way when you finally pull off the pants, there will probably be less resistance.

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Dude you must make her comfortable...
Tell her something like... "even tho you are not sure about sex with me i will wait cause IM HAVIN such a great time and I FEEL so COMFORTABLE with you and i see YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE also. Do you?" She will probabily say yes...

so

Just say it confidently. Make her rly rly horny. Rub her pusy with your dick trough pants lol... S

When she will be really really horny then you can even move away and say something like... Will you back me off again cause YOU ARE SENDING ME THIS SIGNALS that YOU WANT ME INSIDE OF YOU and then it can happen something what turns me off, I hope you trust me, do you? (you will hear yes again, cause if she doesnt she wouldnt be there again). This will make her say 2nd yes (you are into a yes-ladder). Then start doing it again and make her horny again and try then, or you can make a statement you seem like you wanna do it now or im interpreting your signlas wrong.

If she says yes she wants it then go for it, if she says no, then you can move back and tell her that she confuses you.


It is not nice... If you cant w8 for a virging girl 10-15 days to finally decide it she wanna do it, than just move on... If you like her then w8 and build the comfort with her, it will speed up the process

yo sup dude, heres what u should do, its a good counter for LMR, while u madeo ut with her and stuff, reach for her pants/underwear or w/e, and say "You should stop me", this is awsome, and it beats them to it, and it works everytime

UPDATE GUYS:

GIrl has been boned several times since then. Took her a few weeks to go from LMR banging. Guys, if you want LMR advice, look below.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!