Unfortunately, sometimes all it takes is one simple act of being needy to destroy all of a chick's attraction for you. Here are some examples.

This past weekend, I tried isolating this hot foreign chick from a 4-set. I was talking to the alpha female of the group, and the target was sitting down while we were standing. I talked a little to the target too. And after a few minutes, I did a compliance test by tugging on her her jacket sleeve and saying to her "I want to talk to you for a bit". She didn't pull away, but she didn't budge. And in her native country, touching is just as casual as it is here. I kept tugging (holy shit needy). She looked uncomfortable and then agreed to leave with me but asked her friend to tag along. I don't know what the PUA thing to do in this case (to un-fuck up the damage) would be so I went along with it. Needless to say, I didn't get anywhere with this one.

A couple days ago there was this hot chick at my gym's sign in desk. The initial conversation went well, and I knew she was gonna be there later so I decided go work my body first before working her. While I was working on one of the machines close to the desk, I casually struck up a conversation with the dude working beside her. She noticed and started stroking her hair like mad while constantly looking at me (IOI). She joined the conversation a couple times. I responded and pretended to not care. So after my workout. I go up to this chick, ready to ask her out. I do a little small talk, to establish comfort. Then the same guy I was talking to earlier basically AMOGs the shit outta me. I think my mistake was just standing there helplessly like a needy AFC while this guy is making himself look more alpha than me. I was honestly there for nearly 10 minutes after the guy chimed in and screwed me over.

And earlier tonight, on MSN, I fucked up again with a different girl that I met a month ago. I did my usual teasing routine. It was working until I started saying needy things like hinting that I miss seeing her in real life and why it's been so long since I last saw her. I knew I was fucking up while I was doing it, but somehow my fingers still found their way to the enter button. The consequences were immediate. Her IOIs that I was enjoying turned into IODs. Her response time suddenly went from very quick to forever, her responses were pretty much single lines and unenthusiastic, and she stopped asking questions or trying to keep the conversation alive. I still kept going though, since I really do miss her and wanted to ask her out so I can talk to her in real life again. Her response times were getting worse and worse. I knew I had to do something. So I said something like "I have to go soon" and also something rather bold. About five minutes later (just that is a clear IOD) she says something which is a clear IOD and then says good night to me.

Three girls. All of them hot. All of them with good personalities. All of them were attracted to me at some point. One single act of being needy drove them all away.
And why was I needy? I felt like I had to ask them out.

Training hard at the gym and refraining from masturbating until I do something to deserve it has put me in a confident and energetic state compared to, say, a month ago. But Mystery emphasized competence over confidence. I've got the confidence down. And that's why I'm able to open chicks and get IOIs. I definitely don't have the competence down. That's why I do or say or even type things that cause them to no longer be interested. One of these things is being needy.

I will see all of these girls in the future. The foreign chick is part of this club I'm kind of in. Same with the girl from MSN. And I will obviously see the girl who works at the gym again. I want to un-fuck up the damage I did. Opening a chick and not getting any IOIs out of her is fine. I won't want what I never had. But to open a chick and get lots of IOIs, kind of get to know her, then shoot yourself in the foot by being needy is different. I definitely want back something I lost.

I'm gonna continue to practice on random HB6+ chicks until I "get it", then keep going. And as a side note, I wish there were more hot chicks that were actually single. Holy fuck it's annoying to have to bail when you find out she has a boyfriend, especially if you're doing well and getting solid IOIs. Anyways, please share your thoughts, comments and ideas concerning my fail report.

dude, dont worry too much about it.

take it slow from now on and go out sarging more. and if you are serious about chasing the girl, realise you dont have to k-close or f-close to get her to be all over you - you can use several occasions, like dates etc to consistently build up the rapport. its the long route vs the short route, but the goal is the same.

remember to end on a good note - ALWAYS. whenever i game girls (i never k or f-close because im hopelessly devoted to getting my dream girl), i will always try to end on a slew of IOIs. Then go home and game her somemore. Then meet her again and game somemore after consulting and reading the material here.

Hot babes that are single are everywhere! i have had no problem with finding them.

good luck and i hoped this helped.

I know how you feel bro, I take sides with you on the MSN/FB failure lol... I met this girl last saturday HB9.. at a little kickback, she is my couzin's ex roomante, anyhow.. we went to the kickback.. my cuzin was the alpha male through out the whole night, he is very talkative, (this was the reason I joined these forums) I consider myself good looking and girls also tell me the same giving me IOI's and wat not.. anyhow the night went on, and she would always look at me and look away, IOI.. then she started talking to me asking me question, she veen asked me if I was talking to anyone.. I said No... trying to pull her in. that night when we were leaving we where in her car, my cuz got out wit his ex and was huggin her talkin nd wat not, so I stayed in with the HB9.. I pulled out a Number-Close.. and went home..

I then texted her.. she's was always very energetic, txting me back... but then I guess I fucked up, trying to get into her emotions by saying all these nice things.. she slowed down her txting..

I talked to her yeterday on facebook, she said she still wanted to go to the movies with me this weekend, but It feel like I'm loosing my attraction on to her.. I just have this bad feeling.. anyhow, she dosent txt me first anymore, I usually txt her..

thats my side of the story lol

IBEUD, I'm not what you'd call super experience with women, yeah man I agree...you fucked up the same way I did. Looks like you got desperate and needy cause you were too goal-oriented, just like myself. You still have date with her though (as long as she doesn't flake)...that's better off than where I'm at right now lol. Just be less needy and more confident - be a true super trooper. That's what I'm trying to do right now by training like a spartan at the gym, swimming, and cutting down on my masturbating to maybe once or twice a week as opposed to once a day (YES, that shit DOES fuck with your game as well as your overall energy/motivation/confidence level).

And toolfan, I can totally relate man. I'm chasing a dream girl too. Some call it one-itis, but I prefer to look at things positively and I call it an advantage. Why's that? When you place very high value on a single girl, almost all other girls you meet don't seem anywhere near her level. So when I approach women, I kind of see them as pawns that will help me rise to greatness in this game and get that dream girl. Yes I still kind of care and wouldn't mind dating/making out/fucking/whatever (not gonna lie), but in the back of my mind they are still pawns. If every hot chick on my campus is a pawn, there's probably about 500 - 1000 pawns I can "use".

And that dream girl happens to be my MSN fuck up. I always end up on a good note with her, but this time I ended up on a horribly fucked up awkward note. It's one thing to be disappointed about a conversation with a girl not ending well cause of shitty body language or whatever; but it's very hard to swallow the fact that I let pixels on a computer screen kill most (if not all) the attraction my dream girl had for me.

The way I see it, this game is kind of like chess. Your inner game is represented by the combined strength of whatever pieces of have left. Your outer game is represented by how you position these pieces so that you can make moves and progress things. In chess if you lose a pawn who gives a shit. Lose a rook or a queen and things will start to go sour. This girl's a queen . My inner game just took a major hit. I figure the only way to get my queen back is to do a freeze-out on her and recruit some pawns. Lawl that analogy was horrible.

I am trying my best to not be needy, It is not an easy task tho, this girl is amazingly cute (AFC Comment) lol... I totally consider this girl, as a Wifey type, yet it would be very hard to achieve that status,while I'm not fully prepared with my game..... I must continue, and work harder on my game not to just be a better PUA, but a better person =D

imo oneitis, or obsession with on girl is fine. there's definitely something something special about my dream girl, other than the fact she's a HB that attracts me to her. Probably her personality.

i game other as many girls as i can to practice for her.

and will most likely go out and do day game for another two weeks to improve my game further.

then i plan to call her out.

dudes dont worry about ruining attraction through text and/or online - i ruined mine, with my dream girl no less, but a good spoken convo can really fix things. some of us just have really bad online or text game, im one of them, which is why i rely on spoken convos more than anything else in the game. even after number close, i would call her.