I'm confused about women isn't everyman! but I'm writing this thread as this has happened to me twice now and both times they were both HB9's so maybe that has something to do with it, but we're on the first date for drinks, things are going great, I'm surprised we have so much in common, we both have the same interests and after an hour I suggest we should head off, but she say's let have one more drink, I'm thinking wow, maybe she's interested and this could lead somewhere...so we have another drink and everything is still good, when we finish the eve, I kiss her on both cheeks and say we'll do this again sometime. I txt her the day after to say I had a fun time and we'll do something nxt week, I arrange dinner with her and then a few days before, she says got a friend coming over from abroad raincheck? So I call her and say yes no probs we'll rearrange it sometime, so after 4days inc wkend I txt her sun night for dinner on wed no reply, then call her to see if she's coming, she say's I'm busy at work call u later. She doesn't. I'm not gonna follow up and be a wuss, she said she'd call so I'll let her, meanwhile I'm gonna chat up other women.

Q: how can u get on so well with a girl for her then to ignore you?

Would appreciate your opinion on this: I'm Italian and live in UK, and have a big family near rome that I go every year to see by the beach, some of my best times are out there, so I'll mention it brefly to girls, but is talking about family a bad area of discussion with girls and be misinterpreted and come across as lower value?

I think you should be k closing during the day 2. And I mean during it, not at the end like a cliche end to the date. As soon as you meet her, get kinoing her half way through the date when things are obviously going well when she wants drink number 2 , thats the point to raise the heat and go in for a kiss. Try changing the tone a little, get serious, slower and closer, she'll be ready for it.

I think it is needed otherwise she might just see you as someone who is a good friend. The only time you can get away without kissing is if there is a really strong sexual tension in the air as posted in slywalkers LR on transport.

I dont text the next day, i feel its too much too soon even if theyve had a good time. it makes you seem like the chaser. its nice to have the day break and let her be the one to be thinking, hmm he seemed to enjoy last night, why hasnt he text me today. let her worry, not you. Even 2 days later shes thinking hmm he was playing it cool, ill get one off him today, you could wait until late in the day, or even wait until the 3rd day, this is prime time to text... shes getting a little annoyed that you havnt contacted her, but day 4 she might be turning angry... so day 2 or 3 is what i reccomend.

Thanks for the reply Dorian, will definately incorporate that strategy into my game, especially delaying my texting for an extra day or two. I gave up dating a woman I was seeing for a few dates and I decided I'm not gonna see her again and didn't tell her, and a week later she txt's me saying she had a great time so for that whole week she was thinking about me

Any advice about mentioning your family on a first date or is that a BIG NO NO! Am I right in saying that if you don't mention family early on it would be easier to sexually escalate quicker?