University of Colorado Boulder.

The bad news gentlemen, she blew me off at the party, in fact I barely gotta chance to spit game on her, but her friends were hot. I ended up saying fuck it and me and buddy just got absolutely shit faced and had a great time drinking up all her booze. I didn't get laid but it was a great night, me and my friend bonded alot and sometimes that is way more rewarding then sex (sometimes). In class she continues to sit next to me and I've pretty much become her tutor, now I don't let her walk on me and I keep things very proffesional in a sense, like I'm not her friend and act as if it is a mutual benefit when we study together. I broke out really bad for some reason the other day and since then the IOI's have completely ceased. But since I'm staying out of the friend zone the book isn't closed yet!

Unlucky with the girl mate.

Like others said before me, talk to other birds n get that "abundance" mentality. Plenty more fish in the sea Especially when your in class, it set up tons of excuses to start conversations.

Any ideas why she just ignored you at the party?

Be careful it sounds like your falling into LJBF zone. if she has hot friends you could just LJBF her and game around her circle....

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Itcha Boi Nemo!

So I think she ignored me at the party because she was playing host. I don't think it had much to do with me to be honest but more that she was entertaining her guests; however if she was interested she would have spend more time with me.

Nemosaurus, I am close to falling into LJBF, but I'm using this situation to practice staying out of it which is done by being a man and not letting a hot girl walk all over me. When we studied one time I left b/c she hadn't done the reading and I told her I'm not going to waste my time teaching you this, go learn it then we can discuss. And yeah I'm totally cool with LJBF anyway, cuz her friends are hot!

Thats good. I should try something like that. some anti LJBF practice lol

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Itcha Boi Nemo!

You guys... I think if all the great PUGs have tried to teach us a SINGLE thing through all those routines and techniques and tricks and other-wordly material, is that girls use their INSTINCT a lot more than their head (and a lot more than we do).

IF you noticed that she ignored you, she noticed that you noticed. And if she noticed that, you pretty much low valued yourself.

Now I don't know HOW it went exactly, but trust me, i'm into the college game a lot more than the club or hip scene : YOU should have done all the ignoring. And bumped into her like "OOOH hey ! I sorta forgot you were here (even funnier if it's her house/party) !!! hey lemme show you something *run magic trick or routine*"


HB10 piss us off so much coz they don't THINK. And they don't THINK because they don't have to. (The way I understood your posts... It's like the girl was TRYING to get you to notice her... Unless you are the college football captain AND roll around with billionaire teenage girls in your lectures, NO GIRL will send such obvious messages. Now maybe you are the football captain though :p)

We boys have to devise strategies to get laid, THOSE girls just look at you and see if they want to play with you. And it's decided about as fast as you would decide if you want burgers or tacos, it's about WANTING not thinking.

STEP 1 : Show them that they can't get you. When a HB10 girl has to choose between burgers and tacos, she picks up her phone and orders pizza... You know why ? Coz they can't have some right now.

STEP 2 : Now that she knows she can't get you (and that in itself is a pretty worrying fact for a girl that is used to having all the boys she wants), make her WANT to get you : hang around at the party surrounded by girl, make ppl laugh so hard the whole room want to know you etc (credit mystery ofc).

STEP 3 : BE READY TO LOSE IT : A lot more important than it may seem, if you actually feel in that state of "i don't have objectives, i grab the best that passes by", SHE will pass by. It's not about pretending... Those girls can feel pretense so easily.


Little game here : Imagine you were blind and deaf and that the only way to walk around the room would be to have a sixth sense about "feeling" good and bad vibes. You'll know how scared and dependable on mere feelings girls are.


Other little game i use when i'm talking to girls far above my level : Think about a flightless superman.... Sure you have all ur super powers and crazy antics...but you can't fly. I'M the one that keeps you on the ground and forces you to walk instead of fly at 8000000MPH. Don't fuck with me girl : I can protect you or I can ignore you.
(little neanderthal but it's THINKING things like that that make her FEEL things she likes, don't ACTUALLY treat her that way)

El Frank, word up homes. I got that, but I'm no longer at the party.

I've been presented with another situation with this girl that I'm not quite sure how to read in to. So we have a test tomorrow and I have alot of other test this week. I pretty much stopped gaming this girl and don't really pay her much attention during class at all. She wanted to meet up and study last Wednesday and we did and I was really on top of my shit for this class. Impressively so.

So we met again this afternoon to go over things for the test. At this point I was focused on school, not her, I have my priorities and ambitions and getting an A on this test comes before getting in bed with her. I think that mind set may have rubbed off on her a bit. We sat down to study when her friend came over to say hey (HB who I had apparently met at the party but didn't remember b/c I was wasted. I surprised my own self with how smooth and cool I played this situation. Then we were going over notes when we ran into a a problematic math equation. She had no idea how to do it. I sat their and worked through it and figured it out then explained it to her like 5 times and she understood it really well when we were finished. We joked and vibed a bit. Then she offered to give me a ride home because her friend was going in the same direction. Earlier tonight she texted me and asked me to email her my notes and I said yeah of course, in which she replie "Thanks, you're a doll" - now here is where I'm kinda confused.....Is this an IOI/compliment? Or just her being nice b.c I've been helping her out in this class??? She didn't give me any IOI's while we were working but at the same time I wasn't really paying attention to her. I think my ambitious and passionate attitude about my schoolwork, my smoothness with her friend, and focus on my school-work and not her may have generated a little interest, but I'm not sure..

I didn't respond to the text.

Bump for thoughts on "You're a doll" and whether or not it is an expression of gratitude or an IOI

You're a doll is usually reserved for Friendzone situs in my experience. It's sort of like when a girl says you're "cute" or a "nice guy." It's a compliment but one that telegraphs her view of you as non sexual material. If she were hot for some beefcake, would she call him doll? Probs not my man.

It sounds like the study sessions are one sided, and she notices that probably, which tells her that you're doing this either because a) you're a nice guy she can trounce or b) you're interested and she can mold you like silly putty. Next time she asks to study tell her sorry but you got things to do. Then see what happens in the next class.

Hope that helped.

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"Fear? If I have gained anything by damning myself, it is that I no longer have anything to fear."-JP Sartre

I probably would've done something with the "Can you send me the notes?"

I'm not sure what exactly i would've said, But some sort of neg or DHV

"I feel so used!"

"It will cost you greatly.." Something like that

Hopefully more clever than that though.

It's not that big of a deal, but you jumped through a pretty big hoop. I know it was just studying, and you should have given them to her anyways, but i think psychologically, you did it so willingly, it might have been construed as a DLV< and maybe she just thinks she can get whatever she wants from you.

Not a big. I think you're still in though.