I went to clubbing this Asian girl, as well as her friends, that I met at a party awhile ago and we had a lot of fun, both with her and her friends. We danced together. I moved away from time to time and saw he dancing with her other guy friends too but I was the only one grinding her. (Not sure if this actually has any significance).

So during the break from dancing, we went for some drink and she opted out of the cocktail and had some water. I did not offer to buy her drink, I just asked if she wanted water or cocktail since she did not have any alcohol since the beginning. So anyways, she just had water after all.

This got me thinking. She seemed like very aware of her environment, not too trusting people she did not know for a long time, and not want to put herself at a vulnerable spot (Who does not drink in a club?). Does her cultural background affect the game or rules of the game?

I keep getting myself into the mode of trying to understand her actions, but I guess I should not and just play the game and use the skills that I have learned? I am new and my skills are rusty but I think I am improving.


I personally think cultural background will affect the game. For example, if a game is properly played, k-close a western girl may not be all that hard but k-close an Asian girl is going to be extremely difficult. Moving in too fast might just do the opposite and scare her away from you.

Of course, I am no master in this subject but that is just my understanding. Your inputs are very much appreciated.

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Remember there's no such thing as a small act of kindness. Every act creates a ripple with no logical end.

I don't think attraction discriminates, it's pretty universal.

That being said, I know any guy with a British, Australian, or non-latino foreign accent gets major bonus points in the U.S (trust me, I'm a native).

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There's a reason you want to be a PUA, so don't lie to yourself.

You want the 10's.

Breaker

RuleBreaker is right on the money!

Don't let cultural background hinder your game at all ... it is insignificant ... meaningless ... even if the girl is a foriegner ... remember what RuleBreaker said ...

Attraction is very universal

Just play the game like you normally would with any other Western woman.


Hey your from Vancouver!? Whats up man .. im from Calgary ... Hows the Olympics goin for you??? I wish I was there ... hitting up all those foriegner women like it was a candy shop!

I agree with rulebreaker and Flipstar, attraction is universal. If you want to relate is directly to one of Neil Strauss' "Rules of the Game" you may want to look at it like this:

ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE

It is the truest statement I have ever heard. I have seen guys win over girls who should be WAAAAY out of thier leauge. Conversley I know of girls (one girl in particular) who CONSISTANTLY dates guys who (don't take this the wrong way) I would consider 10's despite the fact that she is one of the least attractive people I have ever met. Honestly she is a 2-4/10, 210lb, girl with acne and a prominant lisp but she consistantly dates attractive guys, who in many cases come from VERY wealthy backgrounds.

That being said you will occasionally be disqualified by your ethnicity. Some women (and some people in general) will be so racist/biggoted before you ever talk to them that you will never gain value in thier perception and never gain attraction. But I would say that it would take an exceptionally racist/closed minded woman for that to be a defining factor - and lets be honest, do you really want to welcome someone like that to your social circle?

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The Enforcer.

The game is easy to start, the referee blows the whistle. It's where you go from there that matters.

Yeah.. Accents.. they get the girls.. I'm originally from Norway, and had a stronger accent as a younger child, but was embarrassed, and spent a LOT of time trying to "be normal" and even into high school i worked hard on sounding "American" I still have an accent, but it's barely noticeable now... and I wish i wouldn't have.

When I get completely obliterated... Drunk as SHIT.. the accent comes back.. weirdest thing.. but at that point my game is no good. FML right?

My friend is from Guatemala, came up last weekend. heavy accent.. (Also the BEST PUA in this region of the country)

But it's def. a form of peacocking.

As far as attraction, I think it is universal. I've gamed and k-closed/f-closed asian chicks one actually from japan.. same rules apply. same with most other cultures.

I mean, I don't drink at bars either. not a big deal, it will just take experimenting as to what works with some girls, and what doesn't.

not a big

The background does count.

Attraction is universal as you said. Different cultures have different social rules though, some things that are normal in some parts of the world are disgusting in others. Some are even illegal.

Girls have different social statuses depending on what country they are from. In some societies women are respected and treated as equals and in some more macho places they are not. And now Im not talking people from a specific background that have been born and raised in the US because they are still american.

So, girls (and guys) have different rules stuck in their heads, rules that they follow and dont dare to break, they dont know why it just does not feel right for them. This is true for all of us, even from our own childhood.
Just think of all the limiting beliefs you have about being a polite well mannered boy. Imagine how difficult it would be to break free if that thought had come from everybody around you instead of just your mommy.

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Thanks for the input. I personally agree with what Ezo said. There are rules in our head that we may or may not agree but if the majority of our social circle agrees with a set of rules, then those rules become the rules we follow.

As far as Asian girls go. I know Japanese girls are generally more open and outgoing, like western girls whereas Chinese or Taiwanese girls are not. This girl that I met, is a Taiwanese girl and she is considered not very outgoing by her own social circle.

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Yes to clarify, It is upbringing, some things will work with some girls and not with others, and some of that does have to do with the culture and upbringing of the target..

A beautiful woman straight from india will have had different life experiences and values instilled in her through her youth, as a result in gaming her, there will be different attraction switches than that of an "americanized" indian perhaps..

However the same could be true with a sheltered caucasian, or someone of an identical cultural history, but with a different past.

It would be difficult to pin down exactly where the difference in gaming comes from specifically, but different pasts=different ideals.

Culture is simply an element of what makes the attraction switches change, but yes it does have something to do with it..

My two cents is, what works for some girls may not work for others... for whatever reason.. The goal is simply to socially calibrate.

Attraction is universal but the methods used to approach and seduce a woman are culturally specific. You would not approach a muslim woman in a shopping mall and use the same techniques you'd use on a native Cali chick in Ventura. This isn't to say that you should judge a woman just because she "looks" a certain way. But if you're dealing with someone who is obviously from a different culture (looks different from you and speaks with an accent), I think it's key to be extra perceptive of feedback cues from your target and adjust accordingly.