Being in a LTR hasn't stopped me from hitting up the bars with my friends, who are mostly naturals. But I find it hard to be a good wing now. Obviously I'm not going to dragon slay for any for my boys anymore, but my main problem is that girls don't want to be chatted up by somebody who has a gf which makes it difficult to occupy them if my mate is chatting up her friend (his target). girls also think it's weird that i would open a set given my status. the alternative is to not tell them that I have a gf, but then they become attracted to me and try to kino escalate me. if i tell them im unavailable at this point it's really awkward and if i simply resist they think i'm playing hard to get and chase me more.

I have found a few semi-solutions to this for anyone else with this problem:

1. tell them you are unavailable from the get-go and occupy them by play fun games like leading them around the bar introducing them to potential suitors. however often the girl still ends up trying to get you.

2. this one works brilliantly and was fun the first few times, but now i find it exsausting: pretend to be gay. it dhv's your friend by showing that he's cool and liberal to have gay friends, and you can occupy your mate's target's friends by sharing stories about how most guys are scum-bag ect (ofcoarse including how your friend is the exception). however it does require a bit of acting and being able to make up stories about your fictional homosexual experiences.

essentially you use a false disqualifier except that it's not a false disqualifier... it's a real disqualifier. It's a slippery slope if you have good game though because you will unconciously do things that will attract her.

maybe i will try to feild this question to afc adam, he's been married for a while now, i'm sure he's mastered good unavailable wingmanship technique.

does anybody else have any advice or stories about this?

My chick knows I play wing man. So my friend, that to me is very important. If I went out, played wing man and then the word got back to her that I was chatting up a girl, she may think I was looking for a side fling.

She knows that to play a good wing man, I need to play a bit of the part of interested. Many women do not want to chat up a guy who already has a girl (unless they honestly don't care). The key is, to normally not come in to aggressive because I normally find myself having to turn her down for the night. You want her to be interested in you but you don't want her thinking that you are flat out hitting on her to get her in bed.


Once my boy has what he needs or gets the other hottie, then I start to cut it loose.

If she gets to aggressive and tries to move things forward such as "let's go to my place for a drink" or "I'll leave with you and they will leave together" then my out is normally " I'm sorry you got the wrong idea, I came up with my friend I have a girl."

IT sucks, you'll normally have her confused as shit and pissed off. But better to have a stupid misunderstanding that you play off as her reading into the situation to much then being the nice guy and "accidentally" ending up with her for the night.

Oh, and PS don't fake the whole "give me your number and I'll call you". If your boy isn't just hitting her friend for the night and it lasts for a LTR then you'll be stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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One of my best mates is engaged and he is the best wingman you could want.
Always has been and why should a little thing like his gf change that?

Mind you it did nearly land him in hot water recently when we took three girls back to his place and his gf found out....

Even better: your gf can be the best wing he's ever had. Instant social proof anytime she finds him hilarious or anything. On top of that, she probably has hot friends, and can provide a woman's insight to him, instilling confidence.

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My best friend came up last weekend and winged for me.

He's a BRILLIANT PUA, and is now dating a Victoria's Secret model. But he still went out and was an amazing wing.