I'm not comfortable posting on internet forums, but, I find that, in my real life situations, I cannot find a person to confide my questions with. I've heard of this "pick up" community, and I've decided to see what it's all about.

To approach girls, I don't have a problem. I can strike up a decent conversation with any girl whatsoever.

...but I have another issue bothering me. It's being assertive.

Initiating things are a big problem for me. I tend to be a reserved person, and as such, I keep my distance, and automatically assume everyone I talk to is out to hurt me. In the lucky few instances I did talk to a girl, I built something out of it, and would have a girl touching and coming near me on occasion, but then, my own anger and jealousy would kick in, and I'd start treating any girl I connect with like shit, as if she were a dirty slut.

I notice that most of the people that I knew who got girls were fucking douchebags. They lied, cheated, manipulated, and strewn girls around, got them into bed, then left them. A person I "was" friends with stole a girl I connected with at a lounge, WHILE HE HAD HIS THEN-GIRLFRIEND with him, and left me to fend for myself. I had to comfort his girlfriend, and find my own way home, while he fucked the girl I was talking to (even got her number, but now, I deleted it. Vicious slut.)

I've noticed small differences by reading articles on Ask Men. com, and reading stuff from David DeAngelo (That's how I was able to find this site). Even after a lot of reading, this is what I got from it:

-You have to be a piece of shit worm of a human being to get the women you WANT.

-Genuinely kind guys get shit on, which is fucking wrong.

-Women aren't the culprit, but I still have to contend with dogs.

I'd like to say I understand women. All you gotta do is make them feel good without looking like a pussy. But, even so, I'm still a nice guy at heart. I don't ever intend to screw one of my buddies over for a girl. It is what it is, but I guess I just want the power to make things right.

This is why I'm reaching out. I'm still a bit iffy about this whole Pick Up thing, but I like to learn. I am surrounded by dogs; vicious monsters who steal girls from good guys.

I wish to become the greater guy who can control his environment. I notice this may be the place to do it.

So yeah. I'll be here for a bit. Not too long, but I am open ears.

Let's talk.

Hey I take offence ... im a genuinly kind guy and I dont let ppl shit on me

I had friends who were very similar to yours (I even had one who stole my girlfriend, had sex with her, then chucked her, and I was left to pick up the pieces because she came crying back to me) ... what I did to solve my problem was I went out and found new and better friends and I stopped calling and hanging out with my old ones.

Anyways, you'll learn alot here as I have before I actually joined this forum ... I too read alot of David DeAngelo's work and im a fan of "Cocky & Funny." I also took the valuable information here and molded it into my personallity. Next thing I know im not this shy person who needs to get drunk to talk to women (like Rajesh from the t.v. show "The Big Bang Theory")

From the sound of your post you sound a bit spiteful (like I was b4 I read anything on seduction), just keep reading and building knowledge man and put them into practice. Just hang in there man ... you'll make it through!

Hello and welcome !