I posted this awhile back but got no response from anyone here.

I have to say that I am not actively involved in the "community" but do come here once in a while for advice from people who are more skilled in attraction than I am.

Here is a brief overview of my dating life:

I have not had a problem attracting girls in the 5-7 range and get laid on a regular basis from girls of this calibar, and occasionally the 8.

this is becuase I am confident in the personality I convey to girls, and take care of myself.


However, my downside is that I am a REALIST. I do not believe in many of the idealistic PUA views such as "you can get any girl, regarldess of your looks". I believe this philosophy and mindset is needed in order to succeed, but does not apply to everyone.

I believe that most men who are average looking or below can land high caliber women if they work on their physical appearance. however, this ALWAYS involves their physical appearance increasing as they improve themselves.

But what happens when it does not?

This is my case. I have a very youthful look in my face. It is hard to explain, I can PM someone pictures if they want clarification. Basically, my face looks extremely "kidlike", to the point where people think I am 17-18 when I am 24. It impacts my overall apperance to the point where I look funny in "adult" outifts like suits/blazers etc. It literally looks like someone took the head and face structure of a 15 year old and stuck it on a body of a muscular/athletic 24 year old. In short, it is incongruent. Again, I will send pics to prove it. I have spent the last 4 years of my life wearing more mature clothes, and putting on about 30 pounds of muscle, which has helped a little.

I feel like this is something that women commonly reject me for. Women I otherwise get along with and there is mutual attraction.

the one thing I like about my female friends is that they are blunt and honest about things. I have asked them for input on this same issue and they unanimously agree that my looks are the thing that holds me back.

honostly, it is a complete miracle that I have even gotten some of the girls I have in the past. The problem is that most of these lays were formed from "perfect" conditions (girl is on dry spell, no other options, alcohol involved). I feel like I am going to have an extremely hard time getting into a LTR with someone because of this.


I would really like input from someone who has EXPERIENCE and has been around the block a few times, but all opinions are welcome.