how cute... it's almost like youre a couple but YOURE NOT, youre friends
wow.... that is SO special, she's like a snowflake
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP!!!!

"if i had a good amount of time to do this", I thought you said you understood!!! Stop setting up things and this and that, just grab her... one of 2 things will happen:

1. She will tell you to FUCK OFF, and say you've just been nice to her to get in her pants (which is TRUE)

2. She well go with it and you will stop dancing around

anyway it will stop this friend fiesta going on there

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

Just to be sure . . . "Just grabbing her" doesn't mean "just grab her", although the physical act can be a big part of it. You need to just run the show and treat her like she's already your girlfriend instead of treating her like she's you older sister. And this girl won't tell you or anybody to just "fuck off" . . . trust me.

оne simple step is required. Man up and tell her that u want her and friendship does not work out for you. Risky but its what a man would do. i wish someone told me that 1 year ago...

NOT a good idea.

This is the hard sell method that gave the "used car sales" industry its notoriety. "I want this! I want that! Buy this car now! There's another guy coming over here with a check. I'm not taking no for an answer. What more do you want?!?!"

Through the above method, you are ASKING for a logical, verbal commitment over what is definitely an emotional decision. Think about this: Up to the point of ASKING this "YES OR NO" (go over the bridge or burn the bridge) question, what have you done to elevate her positive emotions for you? Answer: If you are in the "friend zone" you have most likely done NOTHING. Furthermore, by ASKING this question, you're cornering the girl into an uncomfortable position. How will you illicit positive responses from an "uncomfortable person"? This is why sales people wine and dine their clients instead of torturing them right?

I think I have used the following metaphor on this forum many times:

To catch a pussy:

You don't run around all over your house going full throttle until you shove that pussy into a corner making it scared shit-less. Then you especially don't creep your way in to the cornered pussy attempting to pounce on it, leaving no choice for the pussy than to either give up or scratch your face so that it can claw its way out.

If you want to catch a pussy, just smile, whistle, and go warm up some milk . . . then place that warm milk right by your feet. Then read a newspaper and hang out for a while. When the pussy curls up next to your feet to lap up that milk, you just pat it a few times and toss it on your lap.

Simple.

Streetlight I get what you mean seriously I have done that before it was ballsy but I have been successful I jus want a good amount of opinions because I am not only new to the community but this isn't a girl I'm just trying to fuck I want to date her before I move to college, at that point I won't really look for a gf I just want fun. So I'm just trying to set thngs up well, which mayb I should do less of and just go with what comes naturally and just go to the basics of game. I no what to do, any more advice would be great though I take all advice as it comes cause I want to get good at game and be able to handle every situation

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dont even think just do it!

kasibi will you check your PM.

i actually really like the way you put it, it makes alotta sense!

but i guess it can also depend on the girl, iv known some that complain that a guy isnt doing enough and she wants him to just balls to the wall ask her directly out, maybe thats just my age group and social perspective though

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dont even think just do it!

^"Asking a girl out" does not equal "A signing of a contract".

Guys are all about the contract. "Are you or are you not my girlfriend?" . . ."Let's have sex." . . . "I am going to kiss you now." We want them to sign a contract prior to creating any attraction.

Look, when it comes time for you to pick that pussy up on to your lap, you do it with gusto and fortitude. This is when and how you ask a girl out. You illicit attraction so that it's COMPELLING for her to say, "Yes! Yes! Yes!"

Waiting around for the pussy to drink up all that milk would be just as idiotic as chasing it around all day long.