if you really want something you have to put it above anything else ... even above other people. I've really learned to be ruthless in persueing your goals ! same with gaming.. if you really want something you GO for IT, just say FUCK IT lets do this shit !
to get want you want you have to detach yourself from reality .. i totally agree because in reality people will tell you how you can't do this or that, or even how your not capable of doing something. These conversations sound like attacks and aren't pleasant.

Emotion only wins when it's applied on the right time - Logic is not expressing but merely analyzing things into your control.... emotion is expression tho. everybody has his own reality and that reality isn't the collective truth - in a fact nobody can see the collective truth , let's just respect eachother for who we are.

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Not trusting women is not misogynous. I don't trust anyone unless they have a reason to be trusted - but that does not stop me from being friendly and open.

Ask yourselves this

How many of your mates could you trust not to fuck you over just for a girl, whether it being the typical thought of telling a girl your secrets in order to win her over, or who will just ditch you on a night out without saying anything as soon as the prospect of poom poom pops up?

Do you arrogantly assume you are better than the (stupid term) AFCs and look down upon and disregard their opinions on everything?

Are these the sort of people you want to be?

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Thanks for this awesome post

The way most people are socialized in schools, churches, families etc. they learn that there are acceptable ranges for behavior. As a child, acting out of the acceptable range has consequences. An adult who acts outside the acceptable range of social behavior has two likely backgrounds:

1. They are socially isolated and didn't learn the "rules" or slowly drift away from them, maybe due to anxiety/depression, drink/drug use, more serious mental illness.

2. They are having bad behavior reinforced upon them by someone at #1, which re-calibrates their social behavioral range. (He's acting badly so it's OK for me to act badly too)

Misogyny is true hatred of women. It's one thing to be an asshole or a jerk, but actually hating women for no other fact that they are female is something completely different. These people are sociopaths. I highly doubt that there are many if any true mysogynists on here because this forum is basically devoted to men who love women. No one would spend this much time and effort learning to court women just to bash them. But it's possible someone on here has a best friend who is a mysogynist, maybe who learned that the behavior was acceptable from a friend or an abusive/alcoholic father, etc. Do NOT let this person re-set your range for acceptable behavior or run the risk becoming socially isolated yourself (and never getting laid).

If someone just wanted a place to put a penis, they could get a fleshlight, a silicone doll, or hire a prostitute. It would probably cost them less money in the long run, too. Hell, if all I wanted as a wet pussy I could just go snatch a girl off the sidewalk and rape her, but I'm not doing that. A misogynist would.

As much as you think my view of PUAs is idealistic, I don't think you give men much credit. There are a lot of young bucks on this site, and maybe you're one of them. Young guys might be just out there trying to get laid because they're inexperienced with girls, but as men mature they generally want the same things - love, affection, a family, etc. A misogynist doesn't want those things, which is why they are dangerous people in a civilized society.

Pickup is about being in the game, and you can't be in the game if the target is of no interest beyond her plumbing.

1. Neither fleshlight nor rape gives the validation or Ego boost that succesfully picking up women would.

2. I've been on this site for nearly two years, hobbit has been here a bit longer than me. And I have seen ALOT of fucked people on this site, many of whom I try and challenge whenever I get the opportunity becuase they are dangerous to the people around them.

Stick around on this forum, on any PU forum, hang out in the chat now and again. I can gaurantee you will meet or see some people with genuinly nasty attitudes.

PU promises you the ability to have almost any girl, to live what is to most people a fantasy. As a result it drags certain people here, some welcome, some not so...

"I don't hate women. I LOVE women. Why else would I put up with all their shit?" - Tucker Max

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Well said good sir. I would have said no at this and argued against you until my last breath, but to this day on, it was what i believed... I was like that, i accepted what i was and i have changed my ways.

Thanks for making other people notice this.

Misogyny...

Goddamn man, I was never aware of this.

I really wasn't aware of this. I was never aware of this.

Everything I did...was misogynistic in nature. I never treated women as friends. I was always an angry dick; treating women as playthings and dumb broads.


Aw man dude. It isn't just "PUA" stuff...it's all the stuff I "learned" in life as well.


It works for the assholes, but not for me.
I knew I was doing something wrong.

And there's the answer: Reflecting on who I am as a person, I am a fucking misogynist. I never respected women, and the current one who (used) to love me, hates my guts. I didn't realize until now that she had feelings, and that she wanted love and care. I fucked up.



...I cried when she told me she didn't like me, and she hated my personality (i.e way I treated her). It hurt, but I deserved it. I never told her how nice she looked, or how her family was doing, or where she grew up.




Once we started getting to know each other, I played this "game" with her, and started to take her for granted.

Long story short, I am defeated. I accepted, I cried, almost destroyed my house, broke my belt into three pieces, made a crack in the wall, and bruised my shin kicking a door.

Back to the core...how do I make friends?
(Yes, I'm asking this. I am emotionally bankrupt).