No, this isn't another shit inner game post that the community for some reason has decided to sway to (probably because literally anyone can be a guru on it) - it's a post that has changed my opinions drastically because of what I've seen in the last few weeks.

So I went to a PUA conference in Sheffield, free, to meet my mate and to go this free conference during the day and go out on the night. We were planning to meet and I heard about it and suggested it; I stupidly thought it might be useful.
We get there and for some reason literally everyone bar me and my mate is wearing baggy jeans, pointy shoes (winklepickers) and those gay jackets that Gambler wears along with necklaces. Why? Is the community that bad that people follow everything to a tee? The forum that held this conference seemed to have several respectable people on it, people who seemed to know what they were talking about, yet when I met them I was thoroughly disappointed.

Although I was at a PUA conference all they could talk about was game, and when me and my mate were talking amongst ourselves they would try and ‘amog’ us by changing the subject and rest their arm up against my shoulder (I’m 6’2” and way taller than most of them, plus a lot of them were definitely over 40). I was getting really frustrated by this point, that they were amoging for no reason and interrupting me. I didn’t want to be rude but neither did I want to be continuously interrupted.

This post is somewhat similar to Style’s when he posts in the game “are you a social robot?”

Well, are you? Now I’ve seen the community first hand and not just from some forums, how do I know that you guys are not all keyboard jockeys? I don’t, but you do.

Another interesting question to ask is this; is game a crutch for social retards a way to talk to women?

In some ways yes. A guy I met and become good friends with, we talked about loads of stuff until he found out I’d read The Game and from then on it was all he talked about. After that he forgot why he was friends with me in the first place and we eventually stopped talking, because I don’t want to be friends with a leech like Tyler Durden.

I know a guy who is absolutely amazing with women, but on day 2s lacks substance and all of a sudden they are not the high energy guy they were in the club and the girl loses attraction for them straight away. Remember, if girls ARE your life, then your life SUCKS. Girls are there to enrich your ALREADY special life, and you don’t need any girl to make it amazing (Sharplin made a decent point in his thread about something like a VIP lifestyle).

To the main point.

At this PUA conference I was CONSTANTLY getting told to approach girls (yes, I stupidly went with them on a night out thinking it’d be a good laugh – how wrong I was). They DIDN’T understand that a night out should be fun. Fair enough if you’re old and the only way you meet girls is on a night out then fine, yet the guys were only my age, no older than 20.

Not only that, but the thing that reallllllly got me was that they were telling me to approach girls that I wouldn’t even touch with someone who I don’t like’s cock. I barely ever approach in clubs, now I don’t know why that is – maybe because uni accomm supplies me with several girls and I’m always seeing at least one at a time, and I have high standards so I rarely see a girl out that I would consider gf’ing if she had an amazing personality.

You can say that saying you have high standards is an excuse for AA, well maybe it is. But neither do I see the point in trying it on with average/minging girls who aren’t worthy of me. Practice, you say. Well sorry but my time is precious. I go out with all of my friends at uni, not to pull girls. I go out to have fun.
My whole life is fun. Everything I do I make fun. Fun is what I am about. My time is precious, and I’m not about to waste it trying to get into some average girl’s knickers.

One of the questions is: How precious is your time?

The other question is: How confident are you of yourself and how much do you respect yourself?

Hopefully this post will make you think, because I had a really good think about it the other day: do I want to be a wannabe PUA who hits on anything? Or do I want to be like a real PUA who has value and picks who he wants? I chose the latter.

PS. I felt compelled to post this because I am very surprised at how desperate some guys are to get their dicks wet. I thought PUAs were different because we have choice, yet when I met a bunch that ‘claimed’ to be, they were just as desperate as any other guy, but using PUA to give them more of a chance.
I’m no PUA by the real definition; I can’t get any girl I want, but I know HOW to. And because of that, I just assumed we would take our pick then choose, not hit on anything.

Guys with low value hit on anything. Guys with REAL value hit on who they want, not what they can GET.

Opinions?

I value myself thiiiiis much!!

So I take it you have absolutely no problems approaching HB10's? Good for you.

I actually have no recollection writing this post, which is scary becauseI didn;t evn think I had drank that much - but having read through it again and the replies what I really mean is go out to enjoy yourself. Don't make pulling a girl the be all and end all of your night, because if it is, you;ll eventually end up disappointed.
That post sounds like I'm really arrogant yeah; I'm not, but that is not the point. Having high expectations of yourself and striving to meet those expectations yields good results, be it in academics, sport and even girls. I know I am not the best looking guy but neither do I care, I still want a stunning girl who I can get along really well with and we will mkake each other laugh. High expectations? Definitely. Can it be achieved? Only time will tell.

I'm not really sure how you came to that but no, I have every problem approaching HB10s. I have no problem approaching average or pretty girls, but I don't see the point in approaching them if I wouldn't go out with them. Personality can often change the way you look at a girl, but I want looks and personality.

I don't actually care if I have problems or not. I've seen posts on this forum which have told me that I am a failure if I don't do X amount of approaches or Z ratio of k-closes. I;m not a failure. It's sad that some guys probably believe this and start to believe that unless they're constantly doing this and that they suck.

True, a PUA can approach in any situation, but does that mean his life should revolve around girls? It's a question only you can decide. Hopefully some poeple will find a different perspective on this like I gain often from this forum.

You forgot: respecting yourself =/= placing yourself above others.


Edit:
Do you have a lack of motivation?


second edit:

Dissapointment should be accepted NOT avoided. Avoiding things cause more harm than accepting them. Some psychologists argue that avoidance of pain is the cause for some mental illnesses.

Your thread is a fabrication. I thought I'd indulge you and play along . . .

What I mean by 'worthy of me', means that a girl I would consider. I didn't exactly exactly choose the right words for what I meant going by the connotations, but then that;s a question of semantics. I don't put myself above others at all, I value everyone's opinion no matter who they are as different opinions give you a wider perspective.

Yes, I do have a lack of motivation. My new year's resolution was to approach any girl I found that was really good looking to me and that I would like to get to know better. I sucked at it. I always ran out of thing to say because I was nervous, yet when I tried it on girls I knew I didn't care I found it easy, even got a few numbers (which was a result to me, at least).

After a few days I began to question what I really want. I am completely happy with my life. I feel I've finally ridded myself of some psychological issues through the help of inner game and true self confidence with the help of PUA. I know how to seduce women and although I'm not the best at it compared to others, I'm happy with where I am. I decided that I didn't care to put myself under pressure for something I didn't even want that much. I have a lack of motivation yes, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest. THe guys at the PUA conference based their whole life around PUA, which I don't think is entirely healthy.

Most guys on this forum seem like down to earth individuals who can think for themselves and don't feel desperate to indulge every piece of game material/product going, and that's a good thing. But I realised that it can be pretty dangerous if you are like that. Some of the guys there were 30, single, and talked about game all night, but approached one set all night! I know now I'll never be like that whereas a few years ago I was terrified of pretty women due to lack of confidence. I know where I want to stop, so should most people.

I've thought about it a lot, hobbit.

Back when I sucked dick at getting girls I always had high standards, yet I would take what I can get. I even started seeing a girl who was nice in personality but who I was not attracted to physically at all.

However now, when I am neither a pro or a loser with girls I am actually in a position to choose. Some people would say my standards are above myself, but what really matters is what I choose. Also, one man's junk is another man's treasure.

The way to beat high standards is to get to know girls, and since I;m a very sociable guy I've become fond of several girls who aren't stunning just pretty, yet have personalities that I've found myself really attracted to. Who knows, I might even become exclusive with one of them at one point, but at the minute I would rather be single.

I really don't think I do. Back when I was an arrogant prick (and I really was arrogant) I had a massively inflated ego. I cared only for myself and not for others, whereas now it is sort of the opposite. I don't have to fuck girls around to get them and I don't need to get with girls I don't like to fuel my ego. I used to be deluded and think I was God's gift - going from a guy who used to be suicidal due to lack of friends and bullied to a guy who was all of a sudden Mr Popular and had girls in his life everywhere was a big shock to the system but thankfully I've turned full circle and I am happy where I am at.

When I failed with women I'd blame it on them "oh, they obviously don't know how great I am", now it's "I'm just not attractive to them, you win some you lose some".

My opinions in life constantly change the more I experience, back when I started posting in April I am ashamed of what I was like when I first joined, cringey even, and that was like 9 months ago? They'll change even more.

Hobbit, the difference between old and new trixsta is that old trixsta had an unfounded sense of worth and fake confidence/arrogance. I didn't value myself as a person or respect myself, I had to prove to myself that I could get girls by pulling anyone, which is what these PUAs at the conference seemed to want to do. Now, I respect myself and believe in myself, and now girls are not the be all and end all I've realised, whereas before they were the key to my happiness. Finally I am happy no matter how my success is going, which is how I think everyone should be. If you are dependent on something to be happy you will inevitably end up disappointed.

apart from the inflated self worth thing, I really like trixsta and I think he makes a good point. If your into PUA just to get women, but you're not enjoying it... What's the point?

^Nice. So the point is . . . if you're hanging out in a "snowboarding forum" and you realize that you're not going to get any information regarding "global economics" in that forum, get the fuck outta there and find a place that is more conducive to your passion right?

The OP is hanging out in a PICK UP (women) forum but instead of chatting with beautiful women, almost beautiful women, in between beautiful and ugly women, and ugly women, he'd rather go on a sausage fest and hang out with his AFC buddies.

There is nothing wrong with this. . . everybody has their "passion".

So why not just start up an ilovesausage.com? Why come here and complain and whine that nobody else here likes sausage parties? The point is YOU LIKE SAUSAGE. Others here do not. Just let it go . . .

no matter what it is you do you need a game plan, picking up girls is no different

I was hoping someone would bring this up, trust it to be you kasabi.

Just because I am not completely and utterly devoted to picking up women does not mean I am not into picking up women. The advice I've gleaned from this forum (as well as yourself even if sometimes we don't agree)has helped me a lot; since I started posting here with the help of PUA and my own life experiences I've changed completely and for the better.

Let's say I post on a football forum because one of my interests is football. And one guy tells me I am letting PA (practice anxiety - made up term) stopping me from practising my shooting three hours a day and that I am a failure because of it.

Would I be? No. I simply do not place as much value as PUA in my life, and just because someone tells you to do this that and the other does not mean you should listen continuously if it is not what you want. I like posting on here as it gives me insights and peoples' experiences which all help me to get better with and understand women, but neither do I want to do a shit load ofapproaches to master it. I'm just not that into it. I'm happy where I am. Hopefully you can all see my point.

Don't approach girls you don't want to approach.

Do what you want and feel.

"Failure" seems to be a sensitive word around here. But yes, if you like football and you don't practice football . . . you will suck at football. Why play football then? Go get yourself a pair of tights, pom pom's and cheer lead instead. Again, nothing wrong with this and far better than lying to yourself thinking that you're a football player.
Apparently to you, this means don't approach ANY girls. By definition, this would mean that PU is 0% of your life. Why are you even here?

So you went to PU conference and were suprised by the fact that the main topic of conversation was PU, and that when you headed they.... god forbid... wanted to sarge?

That's like me going to Martial Arts Planet meet up, hiring out a gym hall with them and being surprised when everyone chooses to train rather than hang out with me and play basketball.


By all means have fun when you sarge... but there is a key word in there that should suggest where that fun should be coming from..

I play a lot of football socially, I play for two teams but we don't take it seriously as to practice. I also meet a lot of girls socially.

If I read football tips, no that will not help me. However if I read and discuss PUA tips, it will help me (it has for me). Concepts of kino and shit I regularly use to great effect and connecting with girls, and that's good enough for me.

PU is not much in my life no, I enjoy posting here. But just because I don't cold approach much means I shouldn't be here? I approached two that caught my eye last week but nothing came of it, big deal.
Nothing wrong with that, they just didn't understand despite me explainingto them I just wanted a good night with my mate, and continually kept telling me I have AA, to which I replied, 'so what if I do'? They all seemed to treat nights out as a place to sarge only and not to have fun. I'm probably in the minority to me, but the whole experience there was just weird tbh.