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I just finished a post on High School game that elaborates on a lot of specifics to closed-loop societies and the importance of social hierarchies, and things to work on for high school game (much like university / college game).

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This site has gotten me to remember a lot of what I did when I was first in college and why it worked so well. I did get a lot of ass back then, granted it wasn't with tens but my college girlfriend was a solid 8. I'm above average in looks but very short and I still got laid a lot.

I am older now but I'm working back at a university. I just started this job and for a while I was "hands off" on trying to pick up students but after learning there is nothing in university policy prohibiting staff from dating students (I'm not faculty), I said "fuck it" and when all the girls come back from break I'm going for it.

College is an awkward time for people. They are in a completely new environment - not quite adults but not children anymore either. They're constantly looking around and calibrating their behavior to their peers. In a large university there are constantly new people coming and going. Lots of students start in the mid-year break and they're not all dumb 18yo freshmen - we had 80 transfer students in the mid-year break at my university. They're vulnerable to put-downs, so careful with the negs except with solid 10s.

Peacocking definitely works for getting attention. I was remembering some of the crazy clothes I wore in college - flowery girls shirt's and pink combat boots and weird stuff. Life of the Party also is key. Girls want to be with the guy who is fun and shows them a good time. I think it's easier to pick up girls in a larger university then in a small private college. If there is a large crowd to sink back into and your social setting feels a bit anonymous, I think girls are much more open to meeting (and f-closing) new guys than if the whole community is only a few hundred people.


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Andre3: When I got to college I just sorta let my personality dictate my game because it dictated my life. I've never had trouble getting something I really wanted, because if I want it, my personality just sorta kicks in. I've had snags like everybody sure, but for the most part I'm very successful if I can get a good first impression.

I'm not the most popular guy at my school by any means. I'm at George Washington U in Washington, DC. There's about 10,000 kids, half the guys are gay the other 1/4 are lame, so it's basically the 10% rule in effect all day. (meaning 10% of the guys get 90% of the girls fyi.) I divulge, the first 2 weeks or so when I got here, I talked to EVERYONE. Anyone and everyone. "Hey, how are you, where you from..." and so on. Remember names, then call someone out if you recently met them. They forgot yours but you know theirs, they feel bad and try to make up for it to get to know you. After the first couple days, I'm picking out the outgoing people and saying hey. Don't be obnoxious, but don't be afraid to let people in the area know that you are someone worth talking to. Only do this with responsive people, people you already consider your friends.

If you do all this, you'll do at least 3 things. First, acquire and maintain social proof. Second, you'll build a great social circle fast thus giving you what it takes to find a party. Third and lastly, you'll have a free DHV every time you're talking with a new girl or one you already knew.

The life of the party is walking around on a day or before the day your school goes out and asking anyone who comes up to you (that knows you of course) and saying "Hey man, what's good for tonight? I heard place X and place Y." Here we go to clubs/bars and less often a frat party. This makes it easy to display you're the life of the party just by PRETENDING you're going out. Maybe you have other plans or work to catch up on, but give the impression that you PROBABLY will head out tonight. This gives a clear appearance of someone who enjoys themselves.

So in summary: meet people, stay in touch with those people, introduce these people to each other, party with these people, meet more people, use these people to DHV for everyone, and then eventually you'll be recognized as someone who likes to have a good time. (Which is all being the life of the party is.) More importantly talking to everyone will no doubt help with any AA you have. Plus, it's much easier to talk to a HB if it looks as if to her you already know half the people in the room.

If you're walking down the street with a HB whom you've just met, make a point to interrupt the conversation by talking to all the people nearby that you know, asking them what they're doing this weekend, and then introduce them to the HB.

This should at least give you an idea.


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It's probably been asked a hundred times already, but I'm about to jump in the shower so don't really have time to search through it.

I've kinda gone n gotten myself a reputation as a player at uni right now, so when I introduce myself to girls the reply is normally "oooh, YOU'RE Greenie?" which kinda puts me off balance straight away.

Is there any way I can play that to my advantage? I know it DsHV n all, but it puts a lot of girls off


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If I become successful with college game from a pickup perspective, it's going to supercharge my "real life game" after I graduate for sure. I've gotten into plenty of bars and clubs and did regular game, and I think that's a lot easier. In a way I feel like it requires being LESS social, and more PERSONAL. And college game requires the all around package from you.
I agree that college game is more difficult. You have to constantly provide social proof. That's the key issue.

However, it can be really easy too. If you surround yourself with the right people, such as a popular frat, getting girls is no problem. In that sense, when you leave college and don't have the frat to rely on, you won't have game and you will be an rAFC.

So my suggestion to freshman would be DONT go to a frat. Really challenge yourself to meet people without relying on the social proof of a frat, and if you succeed with this, you will have great game for life after college. After all... college is just 4 years. There's more to life after that.


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It's probably been asked a hundred times already, but I'm about to jump in the shower so don't really have time to search through it.

I've kinda gone n gotten myself a reputation as a player at uni right now, so when I introduce myself to girls the reply is normally "oooh, YOU'RE Greenie?" which kinda puts me off balance straight away.

Is there any way I can play that to my advantage? I know it DsHV n all, but it puts a lot of girls off
That is exactly how Casanova got around, he used his reputation as his advantage, because girls always wondered how he seduces all the women and this alone got other girls interested in him.

See when girls say "oooh, YOU'RE Greenie?" you are taking it as negative, just answer with confidence and not as you are ashamed "fuck yah I'm Greenie, I get more ass than any of this dudes, you wanna know how?...well you can't because I'm out of your league, pce!" haha

I can relate to you because I'm a greek and I have a reputation of a player as I already got the award for being "playboy of the year" so all the sororities already know I have a reputation of a player/seducer w/e.

In my experience this rep will interest 2/3 girls and the other 1 may be turned off by it, so you gotta work them a little. What I have started doing is introducing rumors that I had a girl friend thru all HS so now because I experienced an LTR I'm just living life free in uni but if I find someone I like I'm gonna be able to have an LTR (which is a total lie, all of it haha, and I took it from Sinn, where instead of ex gf he says he had a fiance to not get a player vibe) or another thing you can do for that type of girls is just be social and chill and not show any interest and start building up he slowly.....

Believe me if you take this rep as a positive you will see results, just rememba Casanova! :D

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Reputation is the cornerstone of power. Through reputation alone you can intimidate and win; once you slip, however, you are vulnerable, and will be attacked on all sides. Make your reputation unassailable. Always be alert to potential attacks and thwart them before they happen. Meanwhile, learn to destroy your enemies by opening holes in their own reputations. Then stand aside and let public opinion hang them.

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yeah it's what i've started to do every now and again right now, so far it's landed me 2 8's that are now my FB's. they know all about my reputation n they just can't get enough of it.

i think i'm gonna need to prepare a few comebacks to the whole "oh, YOU'RE Greenie?" response, coz it's starting to pop up a lot now. Because I'm naturally quite C&F (almost to the point of arrogance) I was thinking something along the lines of "yeah, i know, i'm like a celebrity round here aren't i?" or other funny responses like "nah you're thinkin of my evil twin, i'm actually the nicer one"

I'll test this out over the next couple of nights out n post some feedback - might be a good idea to put a section about reputation in the OP


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I wish i knew this earlier. lol


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Socially, learn the rules of whats acceptable behavior and what isn't. It's going to change in every interaction and every situation but here are a few universal ones...

1. Be a good person. (at least give off that impression if you aren't)

2. Stand up for the people around you.

3. Always take the moral high ground and keep your hands clean.

4. Listen much more than you talk.

5. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say shit. Not nice is anything which is designed to knock someones status below yours.

6. Always ASSUME attraction, ASSUME status and people will buy into it. Thats it. If anyone challenges you, see #3, which means you can point it to them like "dude, what are you 3 years old?" and then ignore whatever else he says and talk to the chicks or other dudes.

7. Don't think about community lingo in field.

8. Acting Alpha and Confident doesn't mean to add more arrogant traits to yourself, you sound like you're coming off too arrogant. If you're naturally charismatic (even if your game sucks) or if you're naturally good looking, this can be a problem, because you have to actually be more humble and the humility is what makes you come off as Alpha and Confident...it's like "this guy is so cool and so powerful but he's just being chill"

8. Bold power moves in public only attract unwanted attention and enemies. Don't be so bold when it comes to setting any major social pace or interaction. Just assume attraction, assume status and move forward.

9. Keep in mind that now that you're high status, you have to watch what you say, because insecure people will take it more to heart coming from you.

10. When you sense someone is manipulating someone else, or the situation in a negative way, just take notice of it, keep it in your head and move on with your day. Use it when you need it.

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I've learnt that having stories to tell always works, especially with freshmen and women younger than you. Being a natural storyteller and "that guy who remembers everything from that night" is a useful skill with college game.


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I'm headed off to college next year so this information was very helpful, the system sounds about right to me, and I'm in America


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So I recently was introduced by a friend to this girl who is in a Sorority. Although I didn't like her I tried to make friends with her in order to get closer to her Sorority Sisters. To cut the story short, basically I tried to escalate, beyond the friend zone, and that led to her thinking I was a player type, when I tried to make a move on one of her Sisters.

Now I believe she has spread rumors to all her Sisters because she ignores all my msgs and they no longer talk to me on FB. Is there any way I can redeem myself in this type of situation or should I just say fuck it and move on to another set.


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@Flex: Re-read the post by V3nu:
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....or another thing you can do for that type of girls is just be social and chill and not show any interest and start building up slowly.....
According to most material, insertion into social cliques (which is 99% of high-school/college game) requires building interest first (fun-loving, life-of-the-party), then building comfort within the group ("hey, I'm cool....LJBF!"). Get at least a third of the group rock-solid behind you AS FRIENDS ONLY (building social proof), only then can you seduce within the clique.

So yeah, you probably were too transparent with your motives, and they saw right through you. Stay away from them for about a week or two, then message back with something like, "Hey, I thought we were friends. What's with the silent SPAM? You treat everyone like this?". Then measure the response. Do try to repair your reputation, as was pointed out earlier in this threat, it's more meaningful than you realize.

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i am going to a university this fall and i wanted to know how to associate myself with guys that are good with women. How do i weed out the guys that are bad with women.


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Hey guys
Lots of the posts are on social circles and the majority of those are based around orientation week (freshman week). As an introvert myself, i have fairly small social circle and am known as the quiet guyof the group. Im not the most popular guy of the group or the life of the party, Any advice on how i could change my image six months in? As at the moment im only getting HB6-HB7s. And not nearly as often as id like. Any advice would be appriciated

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