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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:09 am 
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As any high school PUA on this site would know, and I think there are quite a few of us out there, game in a school setting is completely different than conventional game, and is harder on many levels, and easier on many levels. This post will discuss the bear essentials and some tips / tricks on high school game.

---------HIGH SCHOOL GAME IS DIFFERENT-----------------

As I just mentioned, high school game is completely different than conventional 'street' game, or conventional game. In conventional game, which occurs in most social situations such as on the street, in a club or bar, at the library, at the grocery store, or almost anywhere else, there are some specific circumstances that create the proper environment for what we call 'conventional' game, whereas in a high school environment, the SPAM is unique.

Let's take a look at what exactly makes high school game so much different:
  • 1. The social network.

    The social network of a high school is much more tight knit than most other social situations. On the street, almost no one knows each other, and the game you use is mostly appropriate for this. You can try out ridiculous openers without fear of anything beyond rejection. In a high school, however, the social network is so tight knit that every single girl you see either knows your friends directly, or she is acquainted with your friend's friend. You must take this into account when you are gaming.

    2. The SPAM.

    The SPAM of a high school setting is basically an extension of the social network and how people interact. During lunch or break, the halls of a high school are heavily social. People are secluded into their different groups and cliques; popular, goth, emo, artsy, gangster, etc. When you are gaming in a high school setting, you will often find yourself moving in between these different groups and cliques, which will require a kind of phase shift of energy level and persona to be accepted. For example, the popular kid clique is in general a very high energy, light mood, and fun environment, whereas an emo clique is generally more low energy, cynical, laid back and relaxed environment. I am being hugely stereotypical here, but this is generally the case. This section will be expanded upon later.

    3. Maturity level and behaviour.

    This one is kind of subjective, and does not apply to all girls in high school. Overall, though, the conventions of game that teach you openers, routines, and the like will, for the most part, need to be modified and might not work in high school because of the maturity level and reactionary habits of the girls. I am not too sure how to expand on this, but I believe that using the right routines and taking this maturity level and particular behaviour of these girls into account can help you game them.
There must be more reasons that high school game is different than conventional game, but these are the main three that come to my mind. If you think of any others post them and I'll add them in. Anyways, take these into account when you are gaming; you can never just read how to do something and just do it - it always takes a little tweaking, some customization, and belief in what you are doing.

-----------CHALLENGES OF HIGH SCHOOL GAME---------------------

Everyday when I get up for school it is a challenge for myself. Entering this highly social environment, every guy is challenged to be as popular as he can be in school, and we expect of ourselves to meet all these people, have all of these friends, hook up with all of these girls in order to have a successful high school career.

There are lots of challenges that are particular to high school:

The challenge of social hierarchy.

As I mentioned earlier, the social system in high school is very tightly knit; a high school is much like a very, very small town. Everybody knows each other, in a way; we all know who everybody is, we have seen everybody, and we see each other every day (which will be expanded on later). In this tightly knit community, social hierarchy comes into play very strongly, and affects our judgment of other people. In this reality, a lot of how girls see guys is based on how popular they are, and what clique they are part of; regardless of what their personality is like, what openers they use, or what routines they run. On the streets, where there are no cliques and no one knows the other person's social status (other than based on initial impressions and appearance, which underscores the importance of which) girls can really only go by their first impression of your personality. In high school, people know the cliques and they know people's popularity levels, which in the end affects their perception of you.

---------HIGH SCHOOL GAME 101-----------


Based on the above reading and the particulars of high school game, we can come up with a few suggestions of what to work on and what to do in a high school setting that will improve your game:
  • 1. Mood is important.

    Some days you might find yourself hesitating to game, feeling out of it, lacking inspiration, and for whatever reason you are just lacking the confidence that is necessary to game. In other words, you've lost your swagger. And on other days, everything just clicks, you're swagger is golden, you speak volumes, your words are gold; guys want to be you and girls want to be with you. I'm sure most of you can agree with this. Therefore, your mood is important; for all game, not just high school. You have to emit a happy and positive aura that is picked up by those around you. People love to be around people that are positive, it is just human nature. When you emit this positive and relaxed aura, people just seem naturally attracted to you. When you are out of it, this aura is all messed up, you are not emitting positivity, and people could really care less whether you talk to them or not.
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    You don't need any game at uni, period.

    Just be sociable, confident and funny. Always be introducing new people to each other and be the group that does all the fun things - no one wants to hang around with a bore.

    Oh and kino, touch everyone, kino builds rapport. That's it really. You only need game for clubs and shit but you could argue that all of this is natural game.
    What trixsta says has some very valid backing to it. I think one of the main reasons anyone will fail to be successful with women in high school is because they over think almost everything about it. In all honesty, game in high school is simpler than you might think at first. It is very important to just have a positive and fun attitude. If you emanate with positivity and have a 'fun' aura to you, girls and guys both will gravitate to you. You're social life will thrive. People want to be around fun people, especially at school where classes invoke a kind of mellow and boring mood. Just have fun with it.

    This brings me to one other point about game in general that I think lots of people overlook. This whole thing is supposed to be fun! Don't be in the game for the wrong reasons. Why you should be in the game is because you enjoy the company of women, you are social or want to be more social, you enjoy talking to people, or you want to improve yourself in one way or another. If you are in the game simply to sleep with more women for social proof, or to 'be more popular', or for some similar reason, there is no wonder why you are not seeing the results you want to. Remember that game is supposed to be fun; so, have fun with it!

    2. Talk to everyone.

    This is a method of getting in a positive and social mood - talk to everybody you see. That's right: you walk past someone you know in the hall, talk to them, give them a handshake, smile and ask them how they are, anything at all, small talk or deep, long or short, just do it. The point of this is to make you feel confident about yourself, and to lift your mood to that 'social butterfly' level. Also, try saying 'hi' to everybody you see in the halls that you know. The opening and meeting new people can happen when you reach you're positive and social state, but before that, just start with your friends, and your acquaintances.

    3. Pump yourself up.

    Style recommends a pump-up speech in the mirror every morning to give you that 'top of the world' feeling, and get you in the proper social state. Tell yourself how great you are, jump around and get excited (high energy), listen to positive and uplifting music, and picture success. All of these methods are sure to raise your confidence level, if only just a little bit, but enough to give you the confidence to do that one more approach.

    4. Stylelife Challenge.

    The Stylelife challenge really helps with your game and your overall social life, so I really recommend doing it. It is easier in high school than in conventional game because AA is less crippling, and you are in a social situation five times a week, which means plenty of opportunity to complete the challenges. It is still a hard challenge, hence the title of it, but it is worth doing.
-----------WHAT TO WORK ON------------------
  • 1. Mid-Game

    Mid-game is one of the most crucial points of game that applies to high school. The reason that opening isn't on this list is because it is not a crucial asset to have in high school; sure, it is important in meeting those few girls that you don't know, but it is not necessary for the girls that you already do know. This is why mid-game is important. You need to work on your conversation skills and your ability to game throughout a conversation. Here are some links to some good mid-game how-tos:

    Chief explains the principles of Sexual Attraction: sexual-attraction-explained-in-depth-vt40419.html

    An [external link] on the art of Push / Pull in flirting with women: http://www.braddocksblog.com/2009/12/ho ... pushpull/
    2. Closing / Day-2 Game

    Closing is important in high school not so much at or during school, but mostly at parties and such on weekends. Closing also includes numbers, and sometimes sealing the deal on a relationship. Day-2 game, to my understanding, basically refers to any game that occurs after the initial meeting with the girl. So if you meet a girl at a club, open, mid game, f-close at your place, then any time after that is day 2 game. It doesn't necessarily literally mean the second day after gaming a girl, but it is more advanced game in a relationship. Here are some useful links that go into further depth on closing and Day-2 game, as I am no expert:

    Chief explains 'the movie date' and how it pertains to day-2 game (and how to go about day-2 game right!): the-movie-date-repost-vt58940.html

That's it for now. Thanks for reading this lengthy post, please post anything you think I missed and I'll add it in, and anything you think is wrong. Let's make this the go-to post for high school game! :D

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The only things i can think of off the top of my head are:

When a girl rejects you don't walk away looking like your world just died, if her rejections was her being a b*tch then neg her back, give her a threatening stare for a sec then walk away confidently. If she was trying to be nice about it then you should smile and play it off and try to become her friend to use as a pivot later.

To improve your social standing, i recommend going after underclassmen, particularly hot freshmen ones, since

1. they are less likely to have received knowledge (good or bad) about you so you'll have a neutral chance with them even if your social rep is crap with your own grade.

2. Having a hot freshman will shot your rep up and even if you break up later on the effect will stay and you can use her as a pivot. Having higher rep opens up more doors for girls nearer your grade or age.


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AHHH yes finally!

im happy there is a high school posting place, iv been trying to get one going but its just been hard! high school game is what i do and what im all about (im in high school) iv pretty much broke it down in basically the same ways that you have you pretty much covered everthing

just a thing to add to the other fella

i have found from experience that going for underclassman actually gives you a disadvantage...here is why

1) when you are in high school, the biggest key to being a guy who CAN get around is rep. i find rep to be biggest importance of high school game. now in high school who tends to be the party group? (at least the people who throw the parties) seniors do correct? right. so i know that to keep your rep up with seniors, or even be in the popular group as a senior, is to not be hanging around freshman all the time. it sounds bad, but really iv seen senior guys who are desperate and go for freshman girls which is totally fine if you want to do that BUT, these guys are known as creepy to all girl in my grade (the senior class) now if girls think you are creepy, and the are in the popular high rep group, you are labeled creepy. so all in all, this will damage your rep in high school and lower your value

2) getting with freshman girls is easy! being older just makes it easy. think about it, when you were a freshman, who did every freshman girl want? the senior guys. so now being a senior, it is simple to get freshman girls purely based on your age. u need little game to get with freshman girls, the ability to drive makes them love you, and the fact that you are 18 and they are 14 makes them go nuts. personally, its just to easy now. i like to go for girls in my grade now and i think it is more of a challange and will up your game when you are out of high school, cause you wont be working around freshman girls any more you will be around adults. its a step up in most peoples game to go for girls in your grade or older in high school, but it keeps your value up to not go for little freshman


this is my advice that i have seen, and been through!

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You don't need any game at uni, period.

Just be sociable, confident and funny. Always be introducing new people to each other and be the group that does all the fun things - no one wants to hang around with a bore.

Oh and kino, touch everyone, kino builds rapport. That's it really. You only need game for clubs and shit but you could argue thatall of this is natural game.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:33 am 
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Firstly I just want to say I am glad that this thread exists, because I am in high school and game is indeed slightly different and I would like as much info as I can get about it.
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-----------CHALLENGES OF HIGH SCHOOL GAME---------------------

Everyday when I get up for school it is a challenge for myself. Entering this highly social environment, every guy is challenged to be as popular as he can be in school, and we expect of ourselves to meet all these people, have all of these friends, hook up with all of these girls in order to have a successful high school career.
I find this to be the most difficult challenge, to balance your high school life overall. Most of my time in school I am very tired probably from lack of sleep. This fatigue shrinks my motivation and lowers my mood, which stunts my ability to talk to girls, or people in general.
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  • 1. Mood is important.

    Some days you might find yourself hesitating to game, feeling out of it, lacking inspiration, and for whatever reason you are just lacking the confidence that is necessary to game. In other words, you've lost your swagger. And on other days, everything just clicks, you're swagger is golden, you speak volumes, your words are gold; guys want to be you and girls want to be with you. I'm sure most of you can agree with this. Therefore, your mood is important; for all game, not just high school. You have to emit a happy and positive aura that is picked up by those around you. People love to be around people that are positive, it is just human nature. When you emit this positive and relaxed aura, people just seem naturally attracted to you. When you are out of it, this aura is all messed up, you are not emitting positivity, and people could really care less whether you talk to them or not.


This may also be tough. I try my hardest to be as positive and happy as possible, and I see the results (increased confidence, always smiling, etc.). Unfortunately it is difficult to always be in this mood. Infact it can be irritating to think that I always have to be perfect and happy. I am trying different things to keep emotionally stable and have a mood that is slightly higher than average as my normal state of mind (so my lows would be average mood, and my highs would be very good mood) but again, this is difficult, but would improve things other than pickup as well.

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2. Talk to everyone.

This is a method of getting in a positive and social mood - talk to everybody you see. That's right: you walk past someone you know in the hall, talk to them, give them a handshake, smile and ask them how they are, anything at all, small talk or deep, long or short, just do it. The point of this is to make you feel confident about yourself, and to lift your mood to that 'social butterfly' level. Also, try saying 'hi' to everybody you see in the halls that you know. The opening and meeting new people can happen when you reach you're positive and social state, but before that, just start with your friends, and your acquaintances.


I always do this and try to know as many people as possible from my classes and out. Very true here.

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3. Pump yourself up.

Style recommends a pump-up speech in the mirror every morning to give you that 'top of the world' feeling, and get you in the proper social state. Tell yourself how great you are, jump around and get excited (high energy), listen to positive and uplifting music, and picture success. All of these methods are sure to raise your confidence level, if only just a little bit, but enough to give you the confidence to do that one more approach.


This sounds awesome, I have to start trying this to increase my energy and mood, particularly in the morning.

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4. Stylelife Challenge.

The Stylelife challenge really helps with your game and your overall social life, so I really recommend doing it. It is easier in high school than in conventional game because AA is less crippling, and you are in a social situation five times a week, which means plenty of opportunity to complete the challenges. It is still a hard challenge, hence the title of it, but it is worth doing. [/list]


I am interested in doing stylelife challenge at school, can you elaborate though?

BTW what year of HS are you in Sharplin?


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When a girl rejects you don't walk away looking like your world just died, if her rejections was her being a b*tch then neg her back, give her a threatening stare for a sec then walk away confidently. If she was trying to be nice about it then you should smile and play it off and try to become her friend to use as a pivot later.

To improve your social standing, i recommend going after underclassmen, particularly hot freshmen ones, since

1. they are less likely to have received knowledge (good or bad) about you so you'll have a neutral chance with them even if your social rep is crap with your own grade.

2. Having a hot freshman will shot your rep up and even if you break up later on the effect will stay and you can use her as a pivot. Having higher rep opens up more doors for girls nearer your grade or age.
Some good information here. Rejections are something that can really kill a good mood. If you've got that positive social state going and you're radiating good game, something as simple as one rejection can bring you right out of it. Like you said, it is so important to ignore and move past rejections. When I say ignore, I only mean to move past and forget about it - but never neglect to learn from your mistakes. When you get home, or when you are no longer in a social environment, I really recommend going through your rejections for the day, with an open mind, and trying to analyze why you were rejected. There is no doubt in my mind that this will vastly improve your game, and the more rejections you get and analyze, the more confident you become.

About the freshmen dating, interesting idea here. It's true that the girls won't have any previous knowledge of your social status or proof in the high school community, but the one thing to remember is that people catch on quickly. You can walk around in a city where you know nobody and accurately judge their personality, social proof, clique, background, interests, and hobbies. I do agree that dating a hot freshmen (or any hot girl for that matter) will shoot your rep way up, and give you that extra social proof that you might need. Success with women results in an exponential growth in popularity, and a subsequent rise in your success with women.
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I am interested in doing stylelife challenge at school, can you elaborate though?

BTW what year of HS are you in Sharplin?
The Stylelife challenge is really a fantastic challenge, I highly recommend it to anyone that really wants to renovate their social life and improve in all areas, even beyond just success with women (although this is the main focus of the challenge). The challenge fits high school fairly well because it means that you are in a social environment five times a week, for more than six hours. This is plenty of opportunity to complete the challenges. It is also easier in such a closed and tight-knit community like high school because it seems that you know the people you are approaching more than you would know some person you have never seen before on the street. You can get the challenge at any book store ("Rules of the Game" by Neil Strauss, 25$) or get it online. It is actually a very hard challenge, I have made it to day 7 and I started at the beginning of November last year. I haven't been doing it every day, but even if I had, the challenges require a lot of guts and being numb to AA.

I am in senior year, grade 12.

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You don't need any game at uni, period.

Just be sociable, confident and funny. Always be introducing new people to each other and be the group that does all the fun things - no one wants to hang around with a bore.

Oh and kino, touch everyone, kino builds rapport. That's it really. You only need game for clubs and shit but you could argue thatall of this is natural game.
Well said, I couldn't agree more to be honest. While game can only help you out in many ways, a lot of it you don't even need. Say what is on your mind, don't be afraid to be who you are, and be a fun person (being fun and having a sense of humor are crucial in high school) are all you really need to do. These are the bare essentials. What we need to do with high school game (and university / college game, for that matter, although different in many ways) is to build on these essential elements of game with different methods and techniques, so we are different than the next guy that has these qualities, which is most of the people in a school.

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i agree that dating a hot girl makes your rep go up, but there are hotter girls in your grade who arnt freshman mate!

mR.e

ps-all this should be a sticky more people willl see it that way

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thanks for the post! i was looking for this!


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High School Sucked. It's brutal man...depending on what environment you come from...


Work on grades, dont smoke pot and drink, as well as doing PUA...get the grades don't worry about this BS, honestly.

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I'd say the #1 thing about High school game is taking control and leading the girl. I'm in the middle of my college semester and looking back, if I just manned up and lead I would've gotten soo much poon. I didn't belong to any social clicks. All that is bullshit. I was in drama and everyone knew me because of it. I was friends with everyone in every crowd.

So all in all looking back.... Take control and lead and be a sociable guy to everyone


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High School Sucked. It's brutal man...depending on what environment you come from...
I agree. It really does depend on what type of enviornment at each school. Therefore, different precautions might need to be taken in order to achieve success. Nice post btw, i wish i had this type of stuff in high school.


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im just curious whats your guyses views on drinkin and all that?

i go to parties and of course there are drinkin and smoking (sometimes other stuff but not always, its california thizz is common now ha) and i get just as much social value if not more then the "popular" pot heads, but for alot of guys its hard to match the fellas who supply alchohal or drugs

how do you guys deal with it? only a few times i havnt been with the "in" crowd just cause i dont do anything crazy like that (dont drink anymore due to school sports)

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Dude, be the supplier of girls to the party ;)


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hahahah thats what i typically am!

for the most part, sometimes i just show up solo but almost always have a girl or more with me

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