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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:00 am 
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Hey Guys, this is my first post. I think the PUA community is great and I've been following it for years, but never really participated in the forums, until now.

The reason I am reaching out is because I am trying to elevate my game to a new level. I'm one of those guys that was a bit obsessed with women when I was 18-20 (still am) but did not have very much success (had a few hook-ups and 1 long term girlfriend). then, when I became single at 24, everything started clicking. I'm 29 now and I currently date between 5-8 girls casually at a time and have sex with all of them (some more frequently, others only about once a month). Most of them are HBs between 7 and 9s, but last week I got the number of a former playboy playmate (HB 9+) when I was out in philly -- that is what I want help with.

I am a decent looking guy (6'1", 165lbs, a bit thin and pasty white) but definitely not model level. I consider myself very charming and can easily pick up girls in a variety of settings. Last Saturday I had already gotten 2 #s from HBs earlier in the night when I approached this girl at the bar (no clue why nobody else was on her). anyway, we talked for a while...at first she seemed kind of like, "you really think you can pull this off?" but once i negged her a bit, smiled a lot and got to know her, she started warming up. Problem is it was already close to 2am (closing time) and I was getting these txts from a 22yo HB 8.5 that I have been hooking up with recently...so I wanted to bail because I knew that was a sure thing. anyway, I get her number and mention that we could go salsa/merengue dancing later in the week like wed. or thurs. (FYI, i had no idea she was a former playmate until i was on Facebook the next day and typed her first name in -- it's not common so she was right there and then i googled her and was shocked at what i saw).

So Tuesday night I called and left a solid message (i thought) -- something like, "hey, this is [my name] from Saturday night at [club]...calling to see if you want to grab a drink and go dancing this thursday at [club]. give me a call when you get a chance."

So while I think my game once on a date or interacting with a woman is super solid, I think maybe my phone/txt game is average. It is now Saturday night, one week later (taking a night off because I am sick and have partied 3 nights in a row) and I haven't heard from her or one of the other HBs I met that night (also left her a voicemail on Tuesday).

So specifically my questions are:

1. Is it usually a bad idea to call a girl when getting their number? Is coordinating by text almost always better?

2. how do I proceed now that I already left a voicemail with the former Playmate and other HB? Should I just shoot them a text next week? I realize my odds are low and I'm fine with that :-)

Thanks guys. I look forward to your advice and improving...even with all my experience and success, I still get rejected a lot -- but that's because I "swing the bat" all the time ;-)

hopefully I can dish out some advice for some of the other guys on here.

-The Oracle






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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:17 am 
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I knew this italian guy from long long ago, who used to get laid a lot (a natural)m well anyway, he used to start texting girls about half an hour since he got their number, I'm doing it now and it seems to wprk. Don't wait!

but in youore situation I would call again (nothing to loose), but give her another chance or two and that's it

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:35 am 
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Thanks for the reply...

So you think I should give her one more shot by calling, not texting? should i do this on monday/tuesday and if she doesnt pick up, should i leave another vm?

again, probably doesnt matter at this point but appreciate the feedback.


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you can try texting but too much time has passed, just call,and don't wait for too long, most chances its a flake, but even if it is, if you'll do nothing, nothing will happen. The 2 days rule, is the stupidest thing, call, text whatever but do it as soon as possible, before she has a chance to forget you

I say call... if np answer give her a good text... something interesting

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