ok so ive been talking with this chick(prospect 3) for a few days in class got some IOIs or thought i did at least, anyways after class i neg her about her laughing at me when the teacher called on me about some shit and i didnt know it. after class i approach her and we were chatting and i said you know you could help me instead of laughing at me, we fluffed about class as we walked down the stairs and said i gotta run, what do we need to do in order to continue chatting? she looking at me as if she didnt understand what i meant, so i said do you have a phone? and she says yeah i have a phone, do you want my number and i said no i was just wanting to know if you had a phone, she laughed and i said yeah can i have it, and she said sure and gave me her number

i waited a day to call and i tried txting first and it didnt go through so i tryed calling it and said the number wasnt in service.

so im not sure if its a fake number or i heard her wrong and entered it wrong.


any ideas
skittlepimp

btw...if it is a fake im not gonna take it personal i just learn from it and move on

Maybe neg her about it after class. Walk up to her and tell her she forgot to pay her phone bill, and when she denies it, then ask if she's dyslexic and wrote her number backwards. Rattle off her number and then if its what you have, then try calling it and if it doesn't work, then just say "here, you try". Don't push it, cause she may have made a mistake, or she may be trying to blow you off gently.

thats a good idea, im thinking of doing this i will just chill in class and see if i get any more IOIs(she sits right across from me) if so then ill persue with your neg idea, if no IOIs or i get IODs then ill back off and forget her and move to my other prospects.

thanks Rye Lee, i like the neg part about the phone bill and the dyslexia

which reminds me of the joke about the dyslexic athiest who went around saying there is no dog

anywho ill let you know how it goes in class tomorow


skittlepimp

I would advise that you don't sit around and wait for IOIs. You're past that point. You should have progressed into comfort with her, so now you have the right to just go up to her and start a conversation. If you sit there waiting, then you've regressed back to needing to open her and it sends all the wrong signals. You need to show her that you are a dominant male (not aggressive, just dominant) and that you are worth attention.

point taken and understood thanks

ill give back a report tommorow

didnt get to talk to her till after class, but i did what you said about saying she needed to pay the bill or she has dyslexia, and anyways she said she just got the new number and she told me BBA when she meant BAA anyways i had her call me with her phone and i got the number. she still seems interested and i didnt detect any akwardness in the situation. beyond this point it is all up to me. thanks for helping me with a sucessful # close Rye Lee. RESPECT!




Skittlepimp

I'm glad it worked! Good luck skittlepimp!

Any update?

No offense, but don't ask her for help on anything. To me, it shows that she's a higher value than YOU, which is exactly what you don't want.

Her inner self is thinking: geez, he's not even self sufficient enough to do this same course work that I'm doing without wanting help.

See where I'm going with this. You are a higher level than her, she should be asking for YOUR help. She should be honored to spend time with you. Remember this.

supposed to call this weekend, by the way i failed to mention its a language class(spanish) shes mexican and speaks it fluently thats why i needed help. will let all know how it goes, whatever happens we will all learn something





skittlepimp

There's nothing wrong with asking a person for help. Just because you need to take charge sexually and relationship-wise, doesn't mean that you have to be a perfect person. You would do much better to admit that you may need some help in a course and get it from her, than pretending like you are hot shit and getting crappy marks and looking like a stuborn idiot.

I agree with Rye Lee. There is nothing wrong with asking for help but I see something else going on here. Everyone seems to feel that they have to always have the upper hand in every situation. That's not going to be much fun for her. If you ask for help with something, it will show her that she has some value in your eyes. You can't have all the value. That's just greedy. She needs some too.

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I'm glad there are people that realise this. Being a good PUA doesn't mean that you completely devalue a girl and make her a worthless trophy that just looks good on your "mantle". To be a good PUA you need to just create relationships using your superior grasp of psychology (now some people don't grasp the psychology and just use the material without truly understanding its rooting in the psyche, and it works for them, but I don't consider these people true pick up artists, they are just clones) and part of this is knowing that if she has no value in your eyes, then she's not going to be fulfilled. This is the precise reason why we get girls to DHV to us! I find girls with no sense of humour or any intelligence to be boring and they have little value aside from a notch I would like to put in my bed post, so I will only game them in order to have sex with them, but not for a relationship cause it just won't work.

well ive tryed to call a couple of times each at different times of the day, it goes straight to voicemail, so im treating it as if shes flaking out, im saying phuket and moving on to my other targets. i have to many other targets to think about instead of giving any more time to this one.


disappointed but moving on


skittlepimp

Skittlepimp,

You said she is Mexican. As I understand it, her culture frowns on her accepting an invitation to be unchaperoned with a man without a proper introduction by someone she knows. This is why hispanic women feel they can dress so hot and still be safe if they stay within their own community. The hispanic community is the only place I know of where PUA techniques have got to be flawless if they have a prayer of working. You probably shouldn't read too much into this loss. GFTOW. You'll feel better.

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