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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:21 pm 
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Dear AFC Adam,

First of all, thanks for answering all these countless queries... very cool.

So here's my situation - it's a little long, but I was hoping to get advice from the best because I don't want to mess this one up:

I met this girl the other night through a friend so approaching was no issue - seriously possibly the most gorgeous girl I've ever seen... high aspirations (law school), just like me (grad school). I'm fairly positive she was in the miss USA pageant as well. But anyways, we hit it off, talking alone by ourselves in a bar for about an hour. Lots of laughs, smiles, touching and stories. About 20 minutes til the bar closed, one of her friends came up and asked if she could borrow her from me for a moment. She replied to her friend "no! we're having a really nice talk!" but the friend convinced her to go for a moment. About 5 minutes later, the gorgeous wonder came up and asked for my number and if I would like to get breakfast in the morning and continue our conversation (she was leaving at noon to go home and back to work, about 2 hours away). We arranged breakfast and split our ways for the night. Then in the morning she sends me a text saying "So i definitely forgot i am meeting my family for breakfast. i apparently completely ignored that last night. i really did enjoy talking and meeting you though..." so i said i would let it fly this once because it was family, but next time she owed me dinner. she said absolutely and we chatted a little more, then done.

I was wondering how to approach the situation: I haven't called or talked to her since that morning, which was 2 days ago. she only lives 2 hours away, which in Montana (where I live) isn't too terribly far. I want to connect with her again, but I don't want to sound needy and I definitely want to make her my girlfriend. I was thinking of calling her tonight but once again, I don't want to sound needy or fill her head with a bunch of fluff talk especially after having such great conversations the other night. Like I said, she's 2 hours away and lives in a city where ironically, my uncle is mayor... and she's a politics guru (funny, right?). I know the connection was there, I just don't want to base my approach on waiting around to see if she'll come back. Please help! I can tell that I would be making a big mistake if I let this one get away.

Thanks
Hey drewski,

Thanks for the support man :D

That's awesome man, sounds like the two of you are good together. It's simple, tell her you are going to be in town visiting your uncle and you'd like to see her while there. Then game in person, make it more solid and you wont need a reason to call her afterwords.

Good luck!
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Thanks for the reply Adam. Developing the abundance mentality has actually been fun. I sort of never thought of myself as a guy who would enjoy being single, but once you start seeing a constant stream of results it actually becomes a lot of fun. The HB 8 and I are having movie night as my house this week, should be a good time. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my post.
Hey Nihro,

Haha sounds great bud, enjoy it. We're all creating the memories we'll one day fondly look back on. Make it a good one!

Thanks for the support man, I'll be here if you have anymore questions ;)

Good luck,
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So Adam,

I posted just above here and I'm kind of continuing from that, but anyways, I ended up calling her and we had a nice conversation and agreed to have dinner sometime. However since she is in the process of moving (and since she already lives a ways from me), we decided it would have to be on a weekend, but not immediately. I want to keep on her mind in the days while I wait for our get-together, but I'm doing a poor job. I'm trying to think of ways to remind her of me or just to keep in contact until the time comes. Texts, facebook, or whatever... I'm just looking for something. Since our relationship isn't strong enough I can't really use suggestive or innuendo-like comments, so I'm trying to think of something that might spark a little conversation that won't creep her out or put me in the friend zone.

Thanks again
Hey drewski,

Cool man, I would suggest talking to her via txt. Text convos can go on through the course of an entire day, you both reply when you can and there is no pressure to text back then and there. As long as the convo is interesting and entertaining there's no limit on how long it can go on for.

Never escalate when you can't do anything about it, so keep it fun and light. Talk about things you both have in common at the beginning and find out more about her from there. Qualify, listen and relate.

To avoid convos dying out always introduce new topics at the end of your text so she has something obvious to reply to and Don't two to one her (send her two texts for her one text) she'll reply when she wants, don't push it as it can show neediness at the beginning.

Aside from that see her in person with the excuse of seeing your uncle. Maybe even get your uncle to invite you to a Mayor event and bring her along as your date.

Good luck!
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Hey there Adam, me again :p.

Just watched a video/preview of you on youtube demonstrating a couple of openers - and the description said it was part of a programme you were to be launching -
so I was wondering what programme that would be 'cus it looks very helpful - and also when it would be available :).

Kind regards :)
Hey phantomnote,

Good to know my videos are being watched ;0)

The programme is here and available now:
http://www.instantattractiontraining.com

Enjoy!
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hi Adam
So,we are 2 friends flirting for some weeks now,i would say i am the "hunter" like 70% of the time.The questions are :
1.after i show high investment in her and low value(trying to gain her attention,arguing for silly stuff,asking many questions) and after she obviously shows disinterest should i prove value with willingness to walk away(freezing) ?
cause i see a lot of girls doing this,and even you said most girls act alpha.If it's not ok,then what should i do after she shows disinterest ? Because during the last 2 days,i have been showing tons of low value,and i believe this might be the end.
2.I like to say bad things to her sometimes,maybe just for the sake of breaking comfort but she pretends to be really upset by that.However i don't believe what i say is that harsh.How should i react to that,without over-reacting ?
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Hey Poet,

Dude I would focus on not being low value or showing high investment in the first place, being willing to walk away when you are “losing” is not high value, infact walking away when things are hard is quite the opposite. You wont be turning any heads by walking away when the situation is not great and it will only tell people you are not the kind of guy worth having as people like people who will stick around when times are bad and see things through.

I always say go back to comfort when you mess up, what's great is you can fix anything if you decide to go back to comfort and once you have comfort again the dynamic is reset and you can go back into breaking rapport and gain attraction all over again.

Saying bad things are almost always detrimental to the relationship you have with the person, you break rapport in a serious way and while that can be very powerful it can also be extremely negative and hard to fix, especially when it's recurring. I have friends who break rapport in a serious way and they take the girl through a series of powerful emotions but they always always always bring her back to a good place and leave her better off than they found her. If your going to break rapport in a serious way you have to know exactly how you're going to bring her back to a good place.

How bout you break rapport with her in a teasing funny way until you understand the concept more. What you need to remember is that whenever you break rapport you always need to go back to comfort otherwise you're just hurting the relationship instead of growing it. It sounds like you don't immediately go back to comfort and if she's upset or even pretends to be upset after you've broken rapport then you're not doing it right.

Every girl I break rapport with laughs because I've gone back to comfort straight after and she can see the funny side of what I said or did to her. Without going back to comfort she wouldn't think what I did was funny.

Go back to comfort after breaking rapport in a light hearted way.

Hope this helps,
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Hey Adam!
I went sarging last night at this club in Houston called Rich's.Most of the night went well and I used a lot of your meta game principles during the night (although i went out with one male friend instead of female friends). Because of the fact that me n friend r really good dancers we got to go on stage and battle each other in front of the crowd...the crowd loved it and we even had sum ppl throwing money on stage for us. Well by the time we got down our social proof was thru the roof. So i used tht to my advantage and was pretty much able to open any set (n i did) but for sum reason i was not able to sexually escalate or keep an interesting conversation long enough to escalate..so initially every girl would be really into me but the conversation would start to die out and i would lose all emotional momentum,so instead i just go for the number close or facebook close because of fear that i would ruin all chances of anything happening if the conversation kept going. I would really like to get past that and start getting sum kiss closes and f-closes...any advice? or suggestion on material i should purchase?
Hey tmac7balla,

It's great that you can generate social proof, that's going to come in handy later down the line but as you've no doubt seen social proof isn't all you need to get you laid, you actually need to game off the back of it. I would suggest reading my ebook which explains all my concepts. I'm sure you can find a free copy of it somewhere on the net ;0)

Good luck!
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Hey Adam.
I took your advice and started a few casual conversations with some class mates and I have been hanging round with them a bit more. Thanks for that.
I have another problem. I can get dates quite easily online. The problem is that once I'm actually there, I have no idea what to say. I try to think of something to say and my mind goes completely blank. Funny thing is I can talk all day online, but not in person. I know you're very anti-routines, but I think if I had a few that I could come up with to get a good conversation started it would help. You're the only normal person I can think of to ask, I don't wanna be talking about my little pony or who lies more lol...
Could you give me some ideas for some routines or good openers to get a good conversation started? :)
Hey WillieB.Long,

Haha good to hear things are improving for you mate.

Firstly, don't worry about it too much mate, conversation (in person) get's easier the more you do it, it's just a phase you're going to have to go through until you get used to talking to people. We've all been there ;0)

The best conversation advice I can give you is to start off each sentence with “Yes, and..” those two words will force you to take what someone has said and build on top of it which is great as that is how conversation grows.

Also use the Statement Question format.

“I like rain but only when I'm indoors and I can watch other people get soaked instead of me, What's your favourite weather?”

It'll be a little tricky at first but stick to it and you'll find your conversation grows naturally and will begin to flow in no time ;0)

Hope this helps,
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Hi Adam

Now dude for your BIGGEST, and possibly hardest ever question right here! Bare with me you'll understand my problem :) Me and a friend have discussed over the last few months about UK women. I can't hand on heart say I've ever rated a UK woman at a 8 or 9 (10s don't exist. Perfection is boring). The first truly jaw-dropping bird I ever saw (also my first pick-up success) happened to be American with some German roots.

Then I travel to travel to Las Vegas with a mate or some event thing. For some reason we end up buying some $8 pink fluffy hat. Thought - why not? So I am at this bar and the second truly jaw-dropping girl I've ever seen starts chatting ME up. Some speccy UK geek gets chatted up by a model!! wow! I know you aint a big 'overt' peacocking fan but I was dressed smart, just with a pink fluffy hat. I think if you wear something genuinely for the fun of it then it's fine (peacocking is a very much misunderstood term). Anyway, so 2nd time I've met a 9 and she happens to be ANOTHER American.

Now my friend likes blonds, especially Swedish chicks. Anyway, he is going yoga and some chick walks in that he rates at a 9. He's like wow a fit English chick, he can't believe it, so he approaches... and boom she's Norwegion!

So Adam what the hell is going on here? American Women - Aweomse! European Women - Awesome! So why are UK women so unattractive? Personality as well, it's terrible. Can't even have a decent chat with a UK chick unless she is over 50 years old ffs! Is it us just being English means we find foreign women more attractive? There may be exceptions I admit, but I have never met one.
Hey rhukkas,

Haha you're preaching to the choir mate, I married an American and left all that I know in the UK to be with her in the States ;0)

I agree, I think it must be to do with the fact that as we're so used to the UK most people that are from outside of it is automatically a bonus as it's different and somewhat exotic for us. Ironically everyone I've met in London who is not from there loves the place and people there more than where they are originally from so this falls into our theory rather nicely.

As long as we're enjoying life and broadening our horizons in an attempt to make this massive world smaller I think we're on the right track, just be sure you don't limit the possibilities of meeting someone who matters to you, I have met many a beautiful and intelligent girl from the UK we're all just people at the end of the day all that matters is that we're great ;0)

Adam.


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How do you respond when a girl says, "I dont't know if my boyfriend would like us hanging out..." I've come up with some good responses on the spot, but what would you do?
Hey CrimeInTheCity,

This question depends on the context of the interaction, I would look to her body language, tone and vibe to get my answer for interpretation, if she's still standing there with a smile on her face, playing with her hair and laughing along to what I say then I can conclude that it's still on and she's not explicitly telling me she's not interested.

If on the other hand she's cold, distant and closed off then I think it's safe to assume she has a boyfriend and she's not looking to continue this interaction in regards to hooking up.

There are a million funny one liners you can drop to deflect it but it all comes down to you subtly finding out if it's a test to see how you'll react or an actual warning to make the lines for your interaction clear. It's also very possible to carry on gaming her despite her being in a relationship but I don't do that anyway.

So if I thought she was just testing me, I'd make her laugh and move on. If I thought she actually had a bf then I would add her to my list of new friends and build on that so I could hit on her friends later down the line.

Hope this helps,
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Hey Adam,

I think that's absolutely awesome that you actually take the time to answer people's questions, I'm sure you got a lot on your plate.

I am new to your stuff, so forgive me if I ask a question you cover in one of your products, but do you have any basic advice for classroom game at a college? I'm talking about a small school, with about 30 people per class.

Anything you can give me would be great man! Thanks :)
Hey prodigy409,

I've written quite a few answers to this question as it has popped up quite a lot in the past so be sure to have a look in the previous pages of this thread for them.

The number one thing I can suggest to you is to network like crazy and get a feel for peoples hobbies and interests, find out what they like and what kind of subjects they find interesting then use that information to add value to them by arranging parties, outings and events based on those areas of interest.

You're not limited to one theme or type of event either, if one group is into live music and another is into movies, you could arrange two separate events, one for each group.

Also see if there's a position in your college that would require you to talk with your fellow students and find out their opinions on matters. Do that, like being on a council or student board. This will give you a reason to talk to everybody and will also get you used to talking to more people.

Remember to add value to everyone you talk to and take things slow, relationships are grown not forced ;)

Good luck mate,
Adam


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:49 pm 
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Right did wat ya Said adam and posted on here cheers

I got this chick im seeking. hooked up with her last weekend on sat. went to drop her off. she put the old oh i don't wanna sleep on the first date. didn't know wat to say, so let her off and went home. now i find out my mate cos its his friend, and known her for a while now wants her cos he got jelous. he confronted her, and she said she liked me, but also agreed with him that she liked him and was happy she hooked with me cos he came out and told her. well fuck him, he's cutting my lunch and its too bad, i want her, and I need some advice to hold attraction. she doesn't seem interested. whenever im on facebook she never talks to me. and if she does i initiate convo each time. not her. i really want her, but my mate is ruining me and he's bein greedy cos he's got other chicks on the go and i haven't. wat do i do adam. you seem to have all the answers
Hey watchdogg01,

Wow man it sucks that your friend is doing this.

Okay you don't want to be in a position where you are trying to convince her that you are better than your friend, the second you use logic to justify why she should pick you is the second she loses all attraction for you.

What I would do is distance yourself from competing for her by disqualifying yourself outright and push her on to him at every opportunity, you do this by explaining that you don't want to lose your friend over a girl and she should be with him because you don't like drama and prefer to have good times with good people without the need for it to get all serious.

Carry on flirting with her but by no means do you want it too get all serious, keep it fun, flirty and naughty but all the while reminding her that you see her only as a friend. You do this and watch her investment in you grow, especially while your friend does all he can to cling on to her while all your doing is pushing her away.

(C-R) + Q + SE

Sooo....

Establish a new dynamic that will increase her investment in you at the same time by LJBFing her under the premise that you don't hurt your friends and you don't like things to get all serious, you prefer fun times with fun people and you think it's better if the two of you are friends.

Keep breaking rapport and push pull as much as possible all the while reminding her that you are only friends, this'll get her to wonder if you like her or not (investment)

Keep pushing her onto your friend and make him very available, this in contrast to you being unavailable will make you more desirable than him, at the same time big him up to her (he's really nice, sweet etc) doing this will tell her that you are a great guy and have enough options in your life that you don't need to get into messy situations like this.

Keep the flirting light and fun, while keeping things between him and her uber serious. She'll want you.

Hope this helps,
Adam


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Hay Adam, I'm out often but rely heavily on my verbal game (In which I think I'm very solid at). I ran across your dance floor game demo, and I was very impress.


If possible, can you give me some tips on Dance Floor Game?


- Thanks!
Hey Jase6,

It's hard to type about dance floor game mate, it's really something that need's to be seen.

But if I had to give you some tips it would be:

Don't be the dancing monkey –
Make sure you are not trying to impress anyone with what you are doing, too many guys look for a girls approval on the dance floor instead of allowing the girl to be part of the fun he is having.

Don't be the groin to ass guy -
You know the guy who approaches from behind trying to go for her butt without her having even seen him properly. It's an instant turn off.

Look like you're having fun.
Don't be the guy who is constantly looking around, watching other people have fun. Be the guy who is having a great night and doesn't need anyone to make it better. Enjoy it!

These things will automatically set you apart from the most of the guys there.

Hope this helps,
Adam


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Hey Adam,

Ive hit a bit of a stickign point here and I think I know what Im doing wrong but I jus need a confirmation. Im goin for what you had which is good friends with benfits kinda thing with multiple girls. Nwo i meet the girls build great attraction some comfort. theyll hang out whatever but then theyll start backing off now i know its not the loss of attraction cuz Im buildign it all the time but Im wonderign if its because Im tellin them I dont want a relationship but then onyl invitign them out at night (basicly to hook up). Im thinkin i should be inviting them out for more friendly day stuff to build more comfort and show em that we really are friends while all the while kjeepign attraction. i wouldnt do this until after we made out.

Basicly what Im askign is after Making out should i then proceed to Friendy comfort building behavior like shopping and hanging out in the day then proceed back to night game for the hookup? I feel liek thats what Ive been doing wrong cuz the girls then see me as a player then back off especially the type of girls im goin for.

Secondly is it possible to do damage to a relationship with a hook up by being to Cocky funny to long. I know negs can hurt you if you've already built attraction does cocky funny apply as well?
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Hey Stephen (SAF12)

It sounds to me like you are sending mixed messages and looking like you only want to hook up but are trying to lead them into it the wrong way which is making the girls be defensive around you.

The way to set up the friend with benefits frame is to tell her flat out before anything has happened. You've been gaming and she's into you, she wants to kiss you and is waiting for you to make your move, you stop things then and there to have “the talk”

Tell her that you are not in the right head space to have a relationship right now and doing so will only result in hurting people, which is not what you want to do. Right now, you only want to share in good times with people who want the same. If she's looking for something more serious then you completely understand and you can be friends.

You'll be the straight talking guy whom she can respect, I have never had a girl say she'd rather be friends and have enjoyed many a friend with benefits through being honest like this.

Try it out, I think it will solve your problems.

Let me know how it goes,
Adam.


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Hey Adam.

I've been studying your stuff for a while, and I've got to thank you, it's great!

My problem is how would I go about 'gaming' over Facebook with a girl that I have known a while. Don't worry, it's not 'one-itis', haha, I have just always thought she was cute but before hand I didn't have a clue how to go about it.

Facebook is the only way I can contact her, as I haven't seen her for a good few months now.

If it helps, she's always seen me as the 'funny' guy, I guess that is where no sexual escalation gets me, haha.

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ahh thanks man i understand what i need to do know your advice is always good!
yea i think being young and kinda a natural with girls is very good but i really am pushing to go to the top with this stuff i feel like my chances are better then some guys and i want to really get to be an mPUA someday soon. im deffinitly not one to slack but i still feel like im getting close to that high level of game...but i just want to be there already ha!

again thanks for the advice, i hope someday il get to meet you or something cool like that cause you have been such a big help i really appriciate it

might come at with you with more questions sometime if im stuck :P

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