Hey guys,this 1 has been plaguing me for years now!

A friend of mines(a natural)whom I used to sarge with weekly,he's always fucking DLV'ing me unintentionally.

He thinks he's actually DHV'ing me! He doesn't study seduction so he doesn't know better.

Ok,today we happened to be talking about HBs we'd like to lay.

By chance,we ran into the main girl I'd been telling him about[he knows her also].

He says to her(thinking he's doing me a favor),"Hey Nat,there's K-Loc,he's been looking for you all day".

Fucc Im pissed!!!

He literally does that all the time we talk about a girl we both know.

Now the fucking HB's probably saying to her self that Im a damn stalker with nothing better to do than to think about her all day-which may subcommunicate also that she's the prize and she's that important.

Question is,should I stop hanging with guys who'll keep fucking me up like that.

Or should I just man up and tell him he'd DLV'ing me(eventhough he won't get it)????

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Sounds to me like you have oneitis. Why are you trying to game a girl you know or have met before? Have you not been paying attention to what PUAs tell you? You generally cannot change a girls mind later. She has to feel attracted to you right from the beginning. It's next to impossible to make a female friend or acquaintance start feeling attraction for you.

Here is another piece of advise: Don't hang out with naturals or AMOGs. You have to be the AMOG. Once you enter a set, the goal is to be the AMOG. The center of attention. Chances are if you hang with this guy, he is just gonna keep taking your girls. Right now it looks like he benefits from putting you down. Find new friends. Better yet, go sarging alone.

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That's an eye opener Lord Dark Helmet.

Like the insight.

I know better as far as trying to game girls who've previously been friends or havent been attracted to me.

Thinking about it,I wonder if he AMOGs me with the intentions of fucking things up while Im thinking its unintentional.[/url]

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When life gives you a mountain in your path, climb over it! If you can't climb over, go around it. If you can't go around it, tunnel through it. If all options are out of reach, blast it out of your way!

So this guy is AMOGing you. GREAT! You can use this to your advantage! AMOG him back and come out the stronger man!

Now my post is not just a rant and random advice- here is the technique:

To AMOG someone, and this will work against bitch shields as well, acknowledge what they say as true, then take it either to a ridiculous or hilarious extreme. When you do this you show that you are not insecure by denying it's true. You show that you don't care what people say and that you are immune to negativity. Use this technique to great success!

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Wow, where do I start here...

k-loc, you're HIGHY over thinking this man. For one, you need to stop thinking of everything in terms of DHV and DLV. Second, what he said doesn't really mean anything. Again, you're over thinking. Your worried that what he said will make the girl think your a stalker or something.....nuts. If the girl really thinks that just from what your buddy said, she has some really deep personal issues!

Lord Dark helmet: Actually its quite easy to change a girls mind, regardless if she was attracted to you at first or not.

Next, hanging out with "naturals" is a great way to improve your game! You get to see a bunch of guys who get laid a lot in action.

Also, stop with the fascination of being some dreamy "alpha male." Once you eneter a "set" the goal isn't to amog, it should be to have fun. You sound like one of those douches that goes up to a group of people and starts being an ass to all the other guys because you think it raises your value. In reality, you just look like a fool.

Insted of trying to out alphla everyone, befriend them. A true alpha male makes friends, not enemies!

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I took the AMOG thing and being the center of attention straight out of Mystery's new book that just came out last month. Same with changing a girls mind. Not sure about the other guys here, but I think Mystery kind of knows what he is talking about.

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Good insight guys.

Maybe I am over thinking this-believing that my friend is DLV'ing me.

I also like the concept of going along with an AMOG line.

Im no AFC,but the AMOG concept has eluded me.

And I definitely don't excuse myself to any women.

If Its 1 great concept I'd learned years ago from "The art of seduction(by Robert Greene)was to never down play what a girl says to you.

Example:

HB:You're such a man whore.

Me:I know. I'd be really bad for a good girl like you. Im the biggest whore.

So I have that concept down packed.

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Lol, so bascially your just a KJ then? Insted of going out in the real world and actually doing it you just quote a silly book?

I'm going to be brutally honest with you and the fact is, you probably wont believe me or even understand me but here it is: Mystery Method sucks.

Sorry but thats how it is. MM gives you so many bad beliefs (her value is higher, you must amog, you must be the center of attention, ect...).

Talk to any experienced person here, Chief, Jsmooth, Slywalker, Jav, Hobbit, Fin, Jaybot....and a lot others. Those guys just come to mind right away. The point is, we all agree that MM is outdated and downright bad for ya.

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If he's a good friend. Talk to him about it. Otherwise ditch this asshole. Short and simple.

Good advice College virgin.

I'll just stop telling him about girl Im interested in and stop sargin with him.

Speaking of MM. I think its still relevant. Its concepts are basically similar to any other PU method.

My main problem with it its the comfort phase and having to have to have the target in isolation in order to kino escalate.

If the target's at buying temperature at the bar;kino her to fucking death if it's too difficult to venue change or whatever.

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Id agree with CV K, if he's cock blocking you by DLV'ing you, talk to him man, if you value your friendship with him, if not ditch him, hang with new people and be the AMOG. Your an intelligent guy, you don't need people like that bro!

I feel you Chel. Thanks for the input guys

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Reminds me of my cousin, and guess what, this was actually his game.

He is a total natural, his method was stealing chicks from friends and even family lol.

I caught on to it because he told me about what he did to a chick that a mutual friend of ours liked a lot. He would tell the girl that said-friend liked her a lot, and how great of a couple they would be together, and then tease the girl about how he would never date her. While sexually kino'in the girl pushing/pulling. He doesn't even know about the game, or this community but understanding this game now I see what he has done, and it was sneaky lol.

There was a girl that I had never thought of as more than just a friend, but he would keep on pushing me telling me how come I didn't have sex with her yet. So then I started to think about it more, and started catching feelings, and saw her totally different this was way before learning about game. So now he notices I like her, and I start confiding in him telling him about a date I took her on etc... I later find out from another friend that my own "Cousin" has been starting to hook up with the chick. At first I didn't believe it, but eventually got the dreaded LJBF. One drunken night later he starts cracking jokes about having sex with my girlfriend, and she wasn't even my girl at the time but a huge ONE-ITIS. I then realized that this is his game, he DLV'S guys to girls by making them look needy, and that would DHV him along with his negging of the girls.

To this day I just stopped social circle gaming with my cousin. He is the top Alpha in his social circle, and I completely blocked him out of my life for other reasons because he was the type to always try and lower your self-esteem. We were really competitive as kids, and I think he just went to the extreme as we grew older.

Its easy for someone to tell you to ditch your friend that they don't know because there so alpha and you need to be, but that's just not real life, if you gonna burn a bridge, you damn sure need to know there's nothing you need left on the other side.

If talking to him doesnt work, use a little Pavlovian training on the guy, every time he takes a shot, Flip it on him.

Friend. Hey GIRL, k'loc's been looking for you all day.
You. "Yeah, i need someone to look after *friend* while ill go make some new friends." Leave and open adjacent set.

Put the pressure on him while you look good talking to other peope and showing willingness to walk away.

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Bus = Mystery method
Walking = AFC

Hey, k-loc,

It sounds, from your description, like your buddy isn't intentionally saying anything to hurt you or your chances with girls. So I don't see any reason to ditch him as a friend.

I agree with those who have pointed out that there are ways to view his comments as opportunities. And you certainly could have a talk with your buddy to see if that would help.

One thing I would add, that I haven't seen anyone mention, is that you yourself can consider making different decisions about the information you feed him. If you've noticed patterns in the sorts of things he will reveal -- things you wish he hadn't mentioned -- think about keeping him out of the loop on them. For example, if you see that, every time you discuss a girl you like, he goes and tells the girl that you're interested in her or have been looking for her, maybe it would be a good idea to keep your buddy in the dark on who interests you.

Hope this helps.

Ciornia