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My two cents.
What's to stop you from being this centuaries Jack the Ripper?
Nothing! Girls invite their friends out becuase they are nervous.
It protects them physically and socially, if conversation lulls there is someone there; and if they get to nervous they have back up.
She's got little worry about if I'm suggesting meeting in a public place. It'd be different if was inviting her a girl i barely know to my to my house then yes she would have a reason to be cautious.
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TBH it would be nice if we didn't need to deal with that but by rejecting day 2's on those grounds your making things alot harder on yourself. You could just not stand for it and almost force her to go alone, but your flaking percentage may skyrocket as a result of that.
If she flakes I'm done with her I'll have a backup plan. I don't depend on these women if anything they need me.
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When faced with the situation you have two options. Find a way to reframe the date as a "date" in which case she'll opt her friend out. Or go with it and have fun and look for an opportunity to isolate later on.
Sorry man but i dont' see how reframing it as a "date" makes any difference it still involves her coming out alone with you which she doesn't want to do. Unless your offering up a free dinner at your expense.
Seem's like people who are posting taking the opposition probably don't have a lot of choices when it comes to women that their willing to bend to their rules. like their female dependent or something.... Its like this if invite a girl out and she declines or whatever maybe she's already made other plans if she doesn't try to reschedule she's done for. My goal is this I'm trying to get these girls naked sooner than later to separate myself from her guy friends. My goal is NOT to be Mr. Funny Social Guy for all her buddies giving her reason to disqualify me. The social aspect is secondary.
1. If it's public you still have the worries of intimidation particularly amongst the 18-ish category.
2. Fine, this depends on the girl 17-18 yr old... it can be very common, older then your running into some problems either with the impression you make. But if you don't "need" her then why sarge, if you want her, in my mind if a girl isn't fully confidence or comfortable in a situation you put her in, you accomodate.
3. If you reframe it as a date in particular as "let's get to know each-other more personnaly" it'll seem a little stranger if she invites her friend out. If it's just "hey let's meet up" then there is an option for friends to come along. It's just a change of context which changes the "rules" (use that phrase as you will) a little.
4. Here's something for you, Leaders/Alpha's are concerned with others, there not as self indulgent in their actions as many people think. A good part of sarging is reading how a girl feels and then reacting in responce to that. Inter-actions are INTER-DEPENDANT, no matter how much of a "I dictate my reality" theme you sling in there, there are and will be always be people with other realities, and you can take them into yours, but you have to remember that they are not neccesarily "you". Being female dependant and adjusting plans in accordance with who you are with and how they feel is just good relationship management
5. While I don't think I have advocated being "the fun social guy" in anyway, I'm actually opposed to that perception of the PUA. I would point out using peer approval is a reasonable technique. It's not ideal no, but the best you can do is aim for the ideal. If it happens, then great! The better you get the more ideal things will become. But it's good to put a heads in for this, a friend coming along can be used to your advantage, it'll often slow your final goal and it arguably is something you don't want to have to deal with, but it's not neccessarily a complete disaster.
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