The writer is a normal guy that realize why not to buy a drink to a girl:


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Through the pickup community or not, I have noticed that 'normal guys' have been clocking onto this for a while. Certainly I don't see it much in Cambridge, but then again, most guys seem to be too afraid to approach cold sets in the first place here.

I was driving back with my mate from football the other day and he was quizzing me on my girl tactics (I was reluctant to go into it but promised to take him out later) and he says "Did you know I read somewhere that ACTUALLY, you're not supposed to buy girls drinks!?"

Hehehe

Who knows

maybe 10 years from now "not to buy drinks" will be the norm and the PUAs will be the exception to the rule by being man enough to buy a drink! A PUA friend of mine had genuinely forgotten the name of a HB9 he had previously sarged, and the 9's friend called him out for trying to game her by forgetting her name and acting disinterested!

When all the confusion ensues and boundaries blur perhaps it will come down to natural game and core value...

I'm glad to see this.

Women will proclaim equal rights all they want but as soon as it's at the bar they will try and push and shove their way to the front, giving out sweet smiles that are supposed to compensate for this.

Once there they will plonk their tits on the bar and moan if they are not served first.

I never buy chicks drinks, then again I'm under 21.

Even if I could I wouldn't, she'd have to earn it.

Good post man.

Making her buy you a drink through a bar bet > buying her a drink.

I enjoyed reading the link to craigslist. That guy writes well, may be we should invite him to join this forum !!

IMO, so long as you dont do anything, buy her anything with a sense of neediness its Okay. For guys who are wondering wehther or not to buy a drink I'd say Go ahead and buy it, see what happens. Experiment infield and test for yourself.

If you are having a conv. and feel like offering a drink do it. If you don't feel like dont do it. But don't overthink !

For girls who think that they could get me in bed by buying me drinks, well you are right ! I'd let you buy my drink and take me to bed

I usually open saying Let's make a deal I'm a comedian, and if I can make you laugh in 3 minutes you owe me a drink.

Solves me breaking the ice and her getting me a drink

Personally I think when your still a chump not buying a drink is a very good move because it differentiates you from other chumps basically payin for a chick to talk to them. As I've become a cooler guy though and more like a natual I've found myself doing all the things that are frowned uppon by PUA law. I compliment often and early in the open lots of times I buy drinks if the situation is fun and I want to, but I think the key difference is its from a completely different frame.

At this point im doin those thing from a place of strenght ad doing those things in my mind advances the pick up and truthfully I have a good job and most of the girls I hit on are in college so I really don't mind dropping 2 bucks on a beer if its going to help her drop her panties. I think most take it or a compliment as a nice gesture from high value guys. It's part of the process so to speak.

I've told girls I wouldn't buy them a drink in the past, but it's blown me out a couple times. My personal fav though was when one chick asked me if I would hold her drink then walked off and left me standing there. A few weeks later another girl I was hitting it off with asked me to hold her drink so she could check in her pocketbook and of course having been burned suplicating I was like no and killed it. Lot of this is calibration.

If you are a cool guy though it just makes you look like an ass IMO. Stuff like negs and telling them you don't buy drinks when you are a cool guy will sink you more than help you in my expereince so if think a girl is cute I don't mind saying it or if we are hitting it off getting her a beer.

Well buying them a drink or two after they buy you a drink seems fair.

Thinking about this little more from a different angle. I went out alone a LOT when I was learning this stuff. I befriended a lot of dudes in the bars, usually because I needed a home base and they are easy to open.
As i got better I normally would have 1 drink bought for me a night.

I'm trying to think how that made me feel and if that is similar to a chick. I know a lot of times it did make me feel good like wow we are partying these guys think Im a cool cat and want to hang out with me and I apprecated it. Other times though I would talk to another lone guy there and those guys would buy me a drink it felt like out of desparation to get me to stay and hang with them because they were uncomfortable. That didn't feel good so, It's all about the frame.

I never buy girls drinks, i always get drinks bought for me now. But i always make sure she is comfortable doing so. usually play the 5-lies game, and tell her,
"you may have lost a drink now, but think how many you'll win from your friends. I'll have a Bud."

on a slight segway, bar-games can be played in non-drinking locations, and a great way to set-up Day 2 without directly asking. Say you're at a coffee shop:
"let's play a game etc... If you lose, you buy me a drink on Saturday" i find that works quite well for me.