Ok. I am not sure. Maybe I just lost myself but I wasn't sure how to open.
So there was this music festival on open. I was with a bunch of frinends, none of them knowing anything about PUA community, some of them males, some females... about 15 of us..
Now the thing is on that festival people were usually grouping, meaning there were 15 of us and a little free space around us, and then another group with more space etc... of course people are walking in that space but kind of strict groups are formed.
About 10 meters from our group there was this girl, omg, she was like totally my type, one I would probably even marry if she's really like she seams to be, like a girl of my dreams, not just only another girl in the line I would game. Like I saw her for a first time and thought: 'Oh man, I think i could really fall in love with this girl'.
Now the thing is I wanted to open her, but sht, what the hell to I say? It would sound really strange if I go with opinion opener, because I'm with 15 friends, why do hell do I go to another girl and ask her opinions (I'm pretty sure she would notice I came from this big group where I could ask same opinion any of my friends)... I couldn't came up with any situational opener (I guess I was so shocked by her looks that I couldn't come with anything)... and direct openers would totally blown me out, I knew that, she probably get direct approaches a lot...
So yeah, I gave myself a 0% chance of success because I didn't even open her at the end, as I was thinking more and more how to get her AA became stronger and stronger and I just couldn't do it anymore... :/
So what would you do in this situation, you see a girl that you really really like, she's totally your type... but it's this situation where you are not sure how to act... How would you go in this situation and what would you say??

Best,
GuitarLord

I'm not an expert on this area, hell, I'm new to the whole PUA thing.

But I guess you could have said something like "me and my friends were discussing [whatever] and couldn't agree about it. What's your opinion about [whatever]?"

First of all, you explained to her why you come to her for the opinion. Your group couldn't agree about it.

Second, you show you got a big social group around you. If you acted like the leader you also showed you were an alpha by just doing that.

Third, you show that you're a social guy and are not affraid to talk to other people. So you don't just hang out with friends and no one else, but you also talk to strangers.


Now, I may be wrong, but this looks like you got 3 DHV's just in the opener itself! 1, high social value. 2, tribal leader (mystery method). 3, socialable guy who talks to strangers.

Ofcourse, you shouldn't just ask that girl alone about the opinion. Get her whole group involved to demonstrate the 3rd DHV with a bigger effect.

I think an opinion opener would have worked afterall.

Cheers,
NAB

"Hey there, I lost my friends and I'm getting kind of scared....Can you help me find them?"

Make shit up. It's your mentality you may think she's the woman of your dreams but, now look your never going to see that girl again. You didn't even take a chance. You need to start knowing that no girl is out of your league, anything you do is the right move and you are the fucking best.

It takes time and practice some will never achieve this state of mentality. Getting over approach anxiety is hard especially if you're really specifically into one girl. It's hard to know that she is just another girl that takes stinky smelling shits. Realize this and you'll be a step ahead of most men in this world.

Hey who are you?

Pull her over to you. Cant ask for a better opener.

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NAB is right, you're already DHV'ing just by being in the group.

Don't worry about the opener too much, it's not actually that important. She isn't going to remember what opener you used when she wakes up to you the next morning

Just say something to get talking to her.

Or if you're really stuck, try using an opener about something she's wearing, or something else situational.

~Deebo

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