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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:06 am 
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Kasabi!

I see what you mean but surely you dont mean that all inner game is just PUA muscles. Inner game is so much more, it is the thing that goes beyond PUA. Thats not just about picking up girls. I know you know what Im talking about but Im a bit confused about your post, could you explain to me please?


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Kasabi!

I see what you mean but surely you dont mean that all inner game is just PUA muscles. Inner game is so much more, it is the thing that goes beyond PUA. Thats not just about picking up girls. I know you know what Im talking about but Im a bit confused about your post, could you explain to me please?
I agree but how do you obtain it? Just about EVERY post I see on this forum regarding "inner game" seems to amount to something like this:

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"I think this, I think that, And then I think this and that . . . " - There is no basis of any kind to "think this OR that" so this habit is essentially a fat lie to your soul. The OP of this thread has had NO SUCCESS with whitie chicks. This is his Universe. He should respect it, accept it . . . and then STRATEGIZE. There is no happiness in this. There is no sadness in this. Just accept it. Sitting at home and thinking "I am capable. I can game. . . I know I can . . ." - is about as wasteful as his current mindset which is: "I can't game whities, I can't game whities. . . "

Do you understand how these two things amount to basically the same thing? Ever try to "think" your way to happiness when you're very, very sad? Ever try to "think" your way to scoring an A on an your exam?

This is no psychological brain twister. If he's sucked for 3 years, he's doing some THING wrong. Fix that THING.

Your SOUL knows that your car will turn left when you turn the wheel to the left because you've done this a million times. Every car in the World turns to the left when the wheel is turned to the left. All the people of the World expect it and you expect it. It's the truth. You don't need to remind yourself. You don't need a mantra. You don't need somebody on this forum to tell you, "Good job! Just keep telling yourself to turn the wheel to the left!!!"

There is no happiness and no sadness and no delusion. You turn the wheel to the left and the car goes to the left. This is INNER GAME.

If you've been turning the fucking wheel to the right and expecting the car to go left all this time, then stop all the bullshit with "I think this and I think that and I think left and right . . ."

Just turn the fucking wheel to the left.


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Well. I agree with what you are saying. I know that some people disagree and think that you build your inner game from your favourite armchair.

As far as Im concerned, the only way I know to build inner game is to get the experience. Well, also to accept that its gonna hurt a lot while you do it. Its basically, either you go out there and expose yourself or you dont.

I mean, after a while you have built up enough inner game to deal with your real problems, that you can also do from home but that is not stuff that is completely girl related. It could be misconceptions and mental limitations.

As with the car, you gonna turn that wheel in every possible direction until you have a feeling for what happens in each possible case. And not be offended if you crash a lot of the times.

Thank you for explaining it to me. It is much clearer what you meant now.


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Well, also to accept that its gonna hurt a lot while you do it. Its basically, either you go out there and expose yourself or you dont.
Are we still talking about pick up? Who told you to get hurt? Expose yourself to what? "Hurt a lot while exposing yourself" . . . (Sounds like a naked boxing match)
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It could be misconceptions and mental limitations.
This cannot be corrected with further misconceptions and further mental limitations.
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As with the car, you gonna turn that wheel in every possible direction until you have a feeling for what happens in each possible case.
How many directions can you turn a wheel? Left or right. . . .PERIOD. People who DO NOT want to change have tendencies to make their decisions much more complex than they are when in fact, when you get down to it, almost all decisions in life are simple, "either this or either that". Left or right? Stand or sit? Call or wait? Kiss or don't? Hold hands or not? Etc . . .

I offered the car example because THERE IS NO CRASH. You already know the car will turn left when you turned the wheel left. Even prior to turning to wheel for the FIRST time, you already knew this. Did you remind yourself, "Turn left for left . . .turn left for left. Yes, I knew it!!!"?? Probably not . . .

And although this is 100% possible to gain from an armchair, most do not have the facility to do this and it's another topic altogether. (Relates more to the monkey thread)


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I'm sorry for such a jarring thread title, but I needed the attention. I've been a long-time member of the forums, so I posted this using a throw-away account. But I've noticed that PUA only works for whites, or blacks. I'm a South-Asian myself, and I just don't have any luck whatsoever with white girls. I've tried everything I've learned from the PUA community, and I really have learned a lot. It has helped immeasurably with my game on other South-Asians, East-Asians, and Latinas - but when it comes to white women, no matter what I say or whatever body language I use, when in the company of their other white friends, they simply will not give me a chance.
I'm a black dude, and my game doesn't work on Asians. Therefore it would be INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST of me to say that the game only works for [other race here] just because I can't f-close an asian chic. I've fucked every race of woman on the planet except for an asian woman. So go figure. Some races of women just don't fuck with certain races of men. I'm black, so I have even a harder time, because most women think negatively of black men, but I don't let that stop me. Women tend to find me intriguing because I'm different from most black men in a good way. My being different, actually HELPS me.

For example, in seattle where I live, most women (of all races) have the stereotype that all black men are saggy-pants-wearing weed-smoking thugs who stand on corners drinking malt liquor and living on welfare. So I'm immediately perceived as different because I don't wear my pants sagging, I don't dress like a thug, I speak proper english, and I carry myself with class, etc, moreover, when I communicate with females they discover through my conversation (without my having to say it specifically) that I have certain social values such as I'm a professional, I'm educated, I'm independent, I'm preselected, I'm a leader of men, and other attraction switches, which is different from the stereotypical black male.

So perhaps you may need to differentiate yourself a bit from other asian men, and sell more of your social value to white women to make them see you in a different light, because apparently white women see you as just another asian dude, which could also be due to the region you live in where maybe white women tend to stereotype asian men. Find out what those stereotypes are in your region and overcome them. And when that doesn't work, just move on.

For example, armed with the knowledge that asian chics don't favor me, saves me a great deal of time, because I DONT APPROACH THEM... lol... and even when I'm introduced to an asian girl, I don't even waste my time trying to target her because I know chances are that it won't go anywhere, and if it would, I would get IOIs from her, which I don't. So I don't worry about it. There are way too many women on the planet (and hotter) for me to put any focus on that one particular race of women. Why fight a battle, if you can't win the war?

So I think you're being a little too over-zealous and that your inner-game is suffering a bit as a result. If white women don't want to fuck with you, it's their loss. Why worry about it. Go fuck 10 hot latinas and 5 brazillians and trust me, you'll be cool.

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I'm black (Panamanian/African-american) and my last girlfriend was Asian! I just don't think you are trying hard enough.


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Are we still talking about pick up? Who told you to get hurt? Expose yourself to what? "Hurt a lot while exposing yourself" . . . (Sounds like a naked boxing match)
Kasabi, I was referring to the pain that this man must feel when he wants to approach a white chick.
A lot of the people here has AA and/or other fears concerning approaching women, talking to women and overall interacting with women. I can totally relate to that. My point is that you cannot become good at something without practice. So, even if it feels awkward to go out there and practice, it has to be done in order to get experience.

That was the point I was trying to make.


And... I agree that we replace misconceptions with other misconceptions. I just prefer the ones I have now to the ones I had before.

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"I think this, I think that, And then I think this and that . . . " - There is no basis of any kind to "think this OR that" so this habit is essentially a fat lie to your soul.
Maybe next time you can post this to where you were reffering it to be so that we could get much more wider perspective or even talk about it instead of avoiding the pain of the ego.
I made the post to share my thoughts refered to the " mindset " so that people could wider their thoughts or even become aware of this subject.
You cannot change something what you aint aware of.
Maybe there is no certain formula to obtain this mindset but IMO its good to know that your thoughts affect the way you behave... even your body reacts to your thoughts in physical level.

Maybe next time we can talk about this subject like two adults without extra shit and focus on the subject.

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Everyone has great advice so far, inner game, etc.... I have one question: Where do you live??

I live in the South and its just a fact of life that most of the girls that grew up here WILL NOT date outside of their race... YES, Its Racist but it is not acceptable in their circle of friends (even if they secretly like you)... In fact Black Guys have a better chance at getting a white chick because its "naughty" and they want to give a middle finger to their Dads, but Asians for some reason aren't "dateable material" where I live....

Damn, Im probably gonna get a hell of a lot of Flack for saying all these things but Im just giving a perspective from where Im standing... For the record I dated an Asian chic, but then again its ok for a whitey to date an Asian chick just not ok for a White girl to....

I didn't make these rules nor do I agree with them... Im just the messenger...with that I say: Where are you gaming??


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ok so you have:

decent game
very good looking
high social value


This is what makes a perfect man.

What else can be improved? All is good so coclusion is that white girls just don't like you anyway and never wiil (again because you already have the best looks+game+ persoanlity, so it can not be improved)


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Its a fact there are women out there who are simply racist doesn't matter how good your game is. Just except it move on and realize there are women out there for you who will actually like you.

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Johnny B,

LOL . . . the post I wrote has NOTHING to do with you or your thread. Go ahead and do a search on "inner game + think", I could have used ANY one of those "Wish Upon a Star Inner Game I think I am an Inner game guru I think this and I think that posts" as an example. Yours just happened to be the last one that I've read.

If you'd like, I'll change the link to any one of those . . . let me know.

Anyhow, in regards to the topic of THIS THREAD (and practically in regards to anything other than a 7 year old wishing out loud to Santa for her gift so that her daddy can hear), the wish upon a star route doesn't apply. That's my point . . . and that was all.

Fix the problem.


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Everyone has great advice so far, inner game, etc.... I have one question: Where do you live??

I live in the South and its just a fact of life that most of the girls that grew up here WILL NOT date outside of their race... YES, Its Racist but it is not acceptable in their circle of friends (even if they secretly like you)... In fact Black Guys have a better chance at getting a white chick because its "naughty" and they want to give a middle finger to their Dads, but Asians for some reason aren't "dateable material" where I live....

Damn, Im probably gonna get a hell of a lot of Flack for saying all these things but Im just giving a perspective from where Im standing... For the record I dated an Asian chic, but then again its ok for a whitey to date an Asian chick just not ok for a White girl to....

I didn't make these rules nor do I agree with them... Im just the messenger...with that I say: Where are you gaming??
I'm an Asian guy. I used to live in the South. My first kiss was a white chick there. I dated a really tall blonde cutie there. And, guess what? I was still an AFC at the time.

Also, kasabi is an Asian dude, too, and he's got a very interesting Lay Report where he picked up a white chick in the deep south: short-asian-guy-in-an-all-white-deep-so ... highlight=

I don't care what the rules are for social norms in dating. The PUA is the exception to the rule. Get used to that saying.


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I'm an Asian guy. I used to live in the South. My first kiss was a white chick there. I dated a really tall blonde cutie there. And, guess what? I was still an AFC at the time.

Also, kasabi is an Asian dude, too, and he's got a very interesting Lay Report where he picked up a white chick in the deep south: short-asian-guy-in-an-all-white-deep-so ... highlight=

I don't care what the rules are for social norms in dating. The PUA is the exception to the rule. Get used to that saying.
I completely agree there are always exceptions to the rules, but..... Why try and bang your head against a brick wall daily when the Sea is filled with many other beautiful "non-white" fish.

All Im saying is Don't Be Racist !! If "White Chicks" don't dig you then find other fish that do... I mean why and try for this one race when there are many others that like you for you...


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guys I think some people got a bit lost by seeing the term Asian... from South Asian.. I am guessing that by South Asian the guy actually means a country like India, Pakistan, Bangledesh, Sri Lanka... i.e. all basically Indian guys... or as the Brits would call it "Asian"... but not actually East Asian...

if they guy actually meant like Thai or Fillipino then just ignore my post :D

I would think that in general white girls would prefer East Asian (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc.) guys to Subcontinent guys.

as for guys that want Asian girls (in the North American terminological sense... i.e. East Asians) well that's pretty simple, just be over 1.80m tall, that's what these girls dream about .... height is very important in those cultures, presumably because it is so lacking in general there... precious commodity. People in the west would laugh and say 1.80 is pretty short (I mean it's like 5'11" or so) or at least average height but in East Asia it is considered quite tall. And according to the black dude I guess it is better to not be black in this case... I have talked to certain girls from certain countries (not gonna name them) and they have said things like "I don't date monkeys" when I asked them about dating black guys, so yes if you are of certain minorities then in some cultures you have an uphill battle. But that's just life.


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I know this post may go against the flow of "Huge Friggin Wall of Text" that seems to be going here, but from what I've read its all in your mind. If you're creating a mental barrier, you wont break it until you realise that you're the only one who believes it.


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