Guys, I want to take my game to the next level and have realized something over the past couple of months. I get the girl's number call her and we meet up, good. But there are a few times when I get the girl's number, for some reason we talk but if she is out, bad reception, with her friend or can't meet up in the next week, I don't call them back again. My attitude is that, if they are interested they would call me back, some do some don't. But I just dont try to reach them back again.

I know I am loosing out on some hot leads but I feel a loss of control or power if I have to call back the next time. I don't pursue women no matter how hot they are. I rather prefer to go meet someone else but I have started feeling that MAy be I could be loosing out on some hot leads. I wanted to know whether you guys think I am being stupid and too full of myself?

Dating Coaches and experts, your advises are welcomed !

Marc

i get that too! i'm working on that myself. i HATE being the one who texts back. sometimes the best way is to wait till you meet her in person. I once froze out a girl who didn't respond to my text, and I didnt even say "hi" when I met her in class next week. She was almost FALLING OVER herself to reinitiate contact.

Cheers.

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ALRIGHT MPUAs, I'm sure you are busy getting laid but comeon ...Some one drop some knowledge on a fellow Student

I think your being to hard on yourself and taking it too seriously man. If your not calling girls back after simple and small things happen such as terrible reciption on the phone your absolutely letting good leads get away. At the same time if you had other women in your life you wouldn't have to worry about "loosing power" over having to call the girl again. Typically if something like that happens you should wait a few days to a week (giving her the chance to INFACT call you first if she is really interested) and then maybe send out a text to see if the girl hooks and then take it from there. If she responds favorably, great. Game on. If not, no big deal because you've been gaming other girls and then it's on to the next one. To answer your question though, I wouldn't give up on the girl entirely over such small issues. The girl may actually be truely busy, have terrible reception etc etc. Most girls wouldn't be the one calling back if your cock was made out of gold and diamonds.

Hope that helps,

Jiggz

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"There are two kinds of men in the world; those who run shit, like me, and those who eat shit, like you."

If you think about it, you are living inside your head hoping to god that out of nowhere she will take the lead and sexually escalate on you.

I believe that PERSISTANCE would be your main problem, Think to yourself "im a man, i have to take the lead in all of my interactions". You cant read their minds so dont even bother trying dude.

Women are by human nature passive, they are the ones that recieve, we as men are the leaders and we escalate and persist and give "value". P for persist no matter what. Dont give up even if she says no. You must follow up on your leads if you number closed.

She gave you her number because she wants you to call, thats it. if she doesnt want to talk on the phone you are weeding out the time wasters.

I too would rather have my clients call me, write up proposals, create a presentation, and then sign the dotted line. Then I'd just sit back in total control, smoking stogies all day long feeling really powerful.

Okay Okay, I get it guys ! I've pulled up my list of numbers from the past 3 weeks that I didn't care to call back after 2 calls.

I was making a distinction between calling up and pursuing. Pursuing to me is calling 3 times during a week just to see back someone again, which I dont do. But calling up is something that is given, and a must once you have a lead.

But I guess, what I'm getting from your advises is that its fine to pursue. Man I still have a problem with that but I'll work on it and let you guys know how it goes.

Thanks, Marc

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-- Jay --

Some women think that men should do ALL the chasing.

Some men think that if a woman is interested she will call back.

If these people meet, guess what happens? Nothing.

Why do you have to be soo helariously Blunt all the time

I get it, and have started working on it right away. Will have to get pass this sticking point in the next 3 weeks. Damnit ! That would mean a bunch of calls

It's all about the pick up. Although it's not a bad idea to go back to tie up loose ends, you ought to think more about how you can bring this new attitude to new contacts. It might sound silly to compare pick up to a strict sales cycle in business but it basically comes down to following a system that works.

It's far better to follow a correct system DURING the process than to go back and try to fix what you did wrong. Just ask Toyota.

dont be so hard on yourself, just move onto the next broad

Perfect !! The best way to break a habbit or develop a new one is to get into it right away. Thats exactly what I did. I started calling on numbers from 3wks back, 1 month, 2 months even 4 months back. I had nothing to lose !! Yes at first there was some awkward silence and I had to 'remind' some of the 'dead' leads of me. But it was worth it.

Some of them have 'Boyfriends' now, didnt want to talk much, some were happy to catch up and some of them were surprised (I expected that). the whole of last 2 1/2 week I ended up going on dates from the past, 5 days a week. It was good and worth it. I noticed that after the first 5 mins of dead air/them wondering why I was meeting them or so, we picked up from where we had left

Marc,

if you are interested in, or attracted to girls that pursue YOU in the instance described, then i think your technique is perfect for screening out the girls that you are not going to be interested in.

however, if you are interested more than just girls that are going to pursue you in the instance you described, then you might want to change your strategy. part of being a PUA is being persistent (though not overly persistent).

pickup (just like a relationship, or a marriage) is analogous with shooting a basketball. it's nice when you get a swoosh and the ball touches nothing but net, but very often the ball bounces on the backboard, bounces on the rim, and may even pop in and out a few times before actually going in. often when you shoot the ball won't even go in the net, and you miss completely. missing a shot is no reason to forfeit that game and start another.

if your goal is to be more successful with women, then i recommend that you work on taking another shot if the first shot does not go in for whatever reason. girls will often have selective memory when it comes to guys. even if you screw up, my rule is always to give it at least one more shot at another time. if after two shots you, things still aren't clicking for whatever reason, a third shot is not likely to work, but i have seen it happen.

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Thanks for your input Sexcellent. I had actually taken everyones advise here and jumped on trying a different mindset. So everytime I would debate whether or not to call the girl I would do opposite of what I feel(i.e. dont bother calling again) And you know what, it worked. I ended up lining quite a few dates for the past 3 weeks.
I love this analogy, makes sense...... Thanks again