Wrong, the action itself is a homosexual action. You are not a homosexual, but the action in itself is. Heterosexual men rape men in prison all the time.(in a lot of cases) Its not about pleasure, its about exerting dominance, pain,and humiliation over another.

Watching Sex and the City is not gay. Having intercourse, kissing, or pleasuring(in a sexual manner) another of the same sex is a homosexual act.

Ok Amador. First off, the gay thing was not the point of the post.

The point was, I didnt fucking back down from something that was difficult. I overcame my fears.

And I would not recommend anyone else doing this unless he is challenged in exactly the same way I was. This is NOT an AMOG technique. But I do recommend you to face your challenges not work your way around them. That is the point.

It is interesting how big deal you guys think this is. It is not a big deal for me.

holly shit, pu has fucked up ur mind... u guys should quit with stuff like "A real man doesnt need to bla bla"

The stronger reactions I see I just become more and more convinced of how limited you guys are. Its not a big deal, really!

Dude, you are obessesed with shits like "A real man should not bla bla" You are going crazy, the next thing u will do it with a man and say "Im not gay, i dont feel like one but i still do it with man!" You have some serious issues.. Stop thinkin about pickup for a while... Stop fooling your self with lies.

You've been manipulated by that guy...

Yeah so? In the end you did something some stupid motherfucker told you to.
So??? ---> You're fucking beta.

He made you kiss him? I mean WTF it's going on here. Do you like kissing him? NO? Than why the fuck did you do it. I'm sure at least he enjoyed it.

Have you thought that he is gay/bisexual? And that he and the girls are just playing with guys who try to fuck the girls?
I would at least understand if this would be the only option. But for fuck sake there are million other options.

AND MILLION OTHER HOT GIRLS.


There is no question about homophobia here, just about you betraying your boundaries just to get a girl. And thats needy and beta.

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I'm just being honest to Ezo.
I respect him and I know that he did what he think is the best, but I'm not going to pump his ego.
If I think he fucked up I will tell it.
Nothing personal, just my opinion on this situation.

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You guys are really overcomplicating this whole situation.

The point isn't whether kissing another guy is gay or not, when did this become Christian soap opera? The point is, as Ezo has said, he overcame his fear and kissed the dude. And it isn't a big deal.

All of you guys have good points but you are shooting at the wrong target. Let's try and get this discussion back to pick up.

Here's what I think Ezo's post has to do with pick up:

Ezo demonstrated higher value when he kissed the dude. Firstly, he did something that no one at the party or wherever he was expected him to do. He surprised them, showed them that he was capable of something that they did not expect and they automatically single him out.

He also showed that he is above other people's judgmental and negative opinions. The fact that he doesn't care what other people think puts him on a level that isn't affected by a girl's bitch shield, and girls know this. They generally respond well to it.

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If some hot girl would told you that you can fuck her if you kiss a guy...would you do it?

Depending on your answer you now know how needy you are.

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Sharplin! Exactly! Everybody, read this again!

Hobbit! Thanks for the support! I guess you are right, most people arent ready to understand this yet.

Everybody else:

I did not do anything out of neediness.
Nor did I do anything because somebody told me.
It was not beta. This is more alpha than you can imagine. This was my choice and Im above the opinion of judgmental people.
I killed my fear.
I didnt betray my boundries, Im less limited than some people here.
Im NOBODYS bitch! I do whatever I choose to do and if people judge me then FUCK them!
I think my issues are smaller than most peoples. It wasnt a big deal. Why would I go to great lengths to avoid something thats not important?

Aaah, why do I even bother, if you havent got me yet you wont! Read this post again when you have better inner game.

Wet kisses

Ezo

Ezo: I'm really trying to understand your point.
Because you seem to know a lot of this PUA stuff, but I just cant get it. Maybe my inner game isnt that developed yet.

So please tell me how this isnt beta if some guy told you to kiss him and you did.
I'm just debating here without any flaming or whatever bullshit.

I mean...looking on the bigger picture you just did what he told you to. And you did this to get girls. And if you ask me kissing a guy is pretty big investment for me in a girl who I dont know.

I'm NOT judging you or anything. I'm just debating here why did you do it, because I dont think you elaborate it enough for us who dont get it to understand.

thanks

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After reading this, I think there is no right answer. Right now people are manifesting their fears/insecurities into Ezo's situation, and passing judgment based on that. In truth, they are really judging themselves.

As far as my thoughts on this, I wouldn't kiss a dude. Just not my thing.

That's exactly right shadow, which is why (until now ) I had refrained from posting.

"You kissed a Guy and you liked it"

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