Every now and then I'll be gaming a chic who (usually somewhere between A3 and C1) will say something to the effect of "Wow, your game is good!!" or "You just know all the right things to say, don't you" with that raised-eyebrow-1-eyed-half-skeptical look on her face or with that you-must-be-a-player-or-a-pick-up-artist defense mode reaction, afterwhich I detect her bitch-shield goes up slightly. One time while escalating kino, I put my arms around a girl shoulders while we sat down in C1, and she said, "so is this what you do with all the girls?", and she became defensive at that point for some reason.

What is the general cause of a woman feeling like your game is too good, that she feels a need to be weary and defensive? I don't get that. I thought the game is supposed to ATTRACT her to you and get you the pussy, not scare it away!

Does this happen to you? And what do you do at that point? Do you calibrate and dumb-down your game so as to not be perceived as having game? Or do you just act like what she says doesn't phase you? And is there such a notion as being good at the game without being TOO good in so much as to make your targets cautious of you?

Or could it be that my game is NOT that good, and that there's something I could do better to avoid unintentionally reactivating bitch-shields in A3 and C1, that I tore down in A1 and A2?

I'd take it as a compliment and continue doing what has been working. Maybe bust on her for something and remind her your just having fun with her and if she calls it gamming then she has issues(fun teasing way)

-SoZoS

What I would do in this situation.. To respond to "wow ur game is good" I'd probably give a simple thank you with a smile then if the convo becomes for some reason awkward after that I blame on her " now you've totally made this conversation awkward is this how it's always going to be like with you?" and with the "do you do this to all girls" i'd just answer back "do you say that to all the guys?"

"what can i say, I'm a pickup artist"

i remember one time a girl said that to me before, i just shook my head and said "ah its just because im great with women"

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This happens to me too.

I take it as a compliment, because she knows what your doing and is impressed by it. Girls want to be swept off their feet, they talk to a lot of loser guys and if she compliments you on your game take it as an IOI.

Depending on the girl/situation I might turn it into a neg like:

"You think I'm hitting on you?"
"Yea, that girl over there keeps eye fucking me."
"Can you imagine how impressed you'd be if I was trying."

Keep up the good game,

B-Man

You are over doing it. Learn the do's and don't of being a pick up artist. You can't just lay all your game at one time coz she'll notice. This PUA community is not so secret anymore since girls are familiar with it through researching and joining forums.

Read some more pick up styles, that might help!

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This is more like a question than a suggestion since this is only my 3rd post, but...

Would being socially friendly to the room (guys, girls, and the staff), help paint you in the light of just being an outgoing, socially-strong male? So when you're showing your PUA skills, she reads them less like a skilled/intentional pick-up and more like a continuation of your previously witnessed social prowess?

Or would that be unnecessary, because it's a rare occurrence anyway and a simple response is better/less-time-consuming? Or would that be counter-intuitive, because even though you're clearly social you still want to convey a message of picking-up vs. just being social?

Great feedback!! Thanks guys!

GOOD ONE!!!

and about the post..

this is a GAME, and girls who'll blame you are playing it as well, it's actually kind of fun to see it that way.. we both know were playing some sort of a game..

first time a girl told me "youre flirting in any way possible" I also felt awakward, but I understood since then that this is just something that works FOR you not against you

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Well, you could either take it as a compliment, or a shit test, depends on how she says it, although just to be on the safe side i would take it as a shit test.

Taking it as a compliment will get you approval from her, you will be jumping through her hoops, and it also makes it look like you are hitting on her, which causes you to fail the shit test.

See it as a shit test, take it as a compliment, BUT deny the fact that you are hitting on her.
"I know, girls have been staring at me all day"
"Wow you're good, you could tell even if i weren't even hitting on you"
"Oh you heard gossip about me haven't you"

Just a simple way of passing the test, it should be mentioned that this is also a golden opportunity to do more than that, pull off some cocky funny, a neg etc.

ahhah now that i think of it you coudl say "do you say that to every guy?"

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I'm not sure HOW defensive she got, but if they are calling you out ITS GREAT. Remember they don't want to be "that girl" that falls for guys shit, but they WANT to fall for it. Watch when a known PUA like Mystery talks with women about what he knows. Their body language is so closed off cuz none of us guys could possibly know what makes them tick. or "I would never fall for that shit".

Now depending on how they displayed the "bitch shield", I would have said ,"Only to the ones I kinda like" and give her a cocky smile and with a joking tone. If you dont lighten the mood and maintain cocky humor at this piont, you're done. By them saying "you say this to all the girls" is them same as us saying "they're trouble'. They LIKE to be called "trouble" or 'the bad one". So we should like it if they say that or call us out.

Another way you can say it is "I don't know WHAT your talking about, I'm actually TERRIBLE with women" with a smile. Here your being sarcastic and it will lighten the mood. I heard MANY times women like it when you poke fun at yourself, but are still confident. It shows you dont take yourself so seriously.

HB: "so is this what you do with all the girls?"
you: No, only to the ones I don't like. When I really like the girl I go much further. (in a cocky funny way)

Beware, I never field tested this.

There might not be anything wrong with you.....she's just clever. She can obviously read body language and you might have met your match? Have you given her a reason to doubt you. It might be harder to get through to her.

I like RitchyRich's suggestion of being lighthearted/sarchastic.

"Another way you can say it is "I don't know WHAT your talking about, I'm actually TERRIBLE with women" with a smile. Here your being sarcastic and it will lighten the mood. I heard MANY times women like it when you poke fun at yourself, but are still confident. It shows you dont take yourself so seriously."


I think you're on to something there Ritchy

If I liked the guy, this would make me laugh. For me that's like you're kind of admitting but it making a joke of it. If I didn't really like him I'd probably say "Yeah right!"

BUT, be prepared for her response becuase she might reply "Then why are you trying with me? Are you trying to say I'm easy!!?" ;p If you were speechless or a bit embarrassed after that I would think you were cute and I'd give you more of my time.

Depending on the woman this could really backfire and she might acutally think this for real :/

Undiscovered's one would be the one to use as a last resort I think.

"now you've totally made this conversation awkward is this how it's always going to be like with you?"

Make sure that you'd say this in a very light-hearted otherwise the conversation will be REALLY awkward lol!!


Not sure about yours Premier :/

""I know, girls have been staring at me all day"
"Wow you're good, you could tell even if i weren't even hitting on you"
"Oh you heard gossip about me haven't you"


I would NOT be impressed at all with Barney Stinson's negs...sorry...let me explain why.

"You think I'm hitting on you?" > I would think in my head "You and I both know you're hitting on me....so don't be such a coward and try and make it out like it's in my imagination". It's like saying 'God this girl actually thinks I'm hitting on her. How silly of her!"


"Yea, that girl over there keeps eye fucking me." > OMG don't say this!!!! I would say ''Good for you!''


"Can you imagine how impressed you'd be if I was trying."

Ican understand how this would work if she was really comfortable with you. But inside my head I'd be thinking "God this guy has no idea". I would find it embarrassing, and if my guard was already up and if I smelled the whiff of a sleezy man my response would be

"You are trying...and guess what? I'm not impressed. You obviously think you have a golden cock....so go stick it in the mouth of someone who will flatter your ego more than I will".

Sounds harsh, but if my guard is up, that would be my defensive response. I would probably have walked away by that point :/

Thanks for the input hun. I think its awesome that we have a feamle on here to give us a perspective. I think some of the negs on here are a little TOO cocky, and coming from me thats saying alot. See I have to watch it because I am a good looking guy, and I'm muscular. I HAVE to make light of it or it's overkill with the cockiness becuase they already think I am.

Look women know you are hitting on them, and not just women but PEOPLE hate to be called out or made to look stupid. Women also like confident/cocky guys, not cocky/arrogant guys and there is a fine line. If you point out that girls are 'eye fucking you" its a turn off. If they see it and you ask for help thats different. Then act like you dont know why they are, or act like your used to it in a joking way, YOU'RE GOLDEN.

If you get called out, your reaction will make or break you.