Most of you have probably heard the phrase "take everything in moderation." I think this is a principle that more guys on the forum should adopt. I've noticed a trend that guys will adopt the whole pua lifestyle and mentality 100% and without question. They will take their whole life and do a 180 thinking that they must do everything the exact opposite as they used to. To me, the 180 switch creates unreal expectations and even some brainwashing.

In many posts I sense a desperation from guys who desire to become a pua so they can meet women. Well guess what, men, other than pua's get women! If only pua's got women, there would be a lot of unsatisfied women out there.....and even more unsatisfied men.

Guys who say they want to become a pua have a vision in their mind....but that is a vision of someone else. To become that person, an individual would have to abandon parts of their own identity. What this all boils down to is, it isn't pua or bust. If you start from the beginning (inner game) and you work your way through the material and accepting the material in moderation, you will be able to retain your identity....and no, not the new alter ego that you create, your true identity. That is how true pua's are made....those guys that you see at the top of the page are not clones of each other. They each had similar goals but found a different way to achieve them. They put their special touch on it and that is why they are successful. So find your style by accepting pua material in moderation....question everything (question this thread!)...do you REALLY get it, do you REALLY agree with it. When you find what works for you, it will be too easy.

I'm giving you a vote for this.

Something I've been thinking/saying, but never bothered to post about. (Some people seem too blown away by the idea of being a PUA to accept it).

This is a really good post, B. Says a lot of stuff I had on my mind.

The problem I see, often, is people being told you need to change, and people are all being given the same generic advice. When really, theres only a few minor things they need to change, instead they're being lead to totally re-shape themselfs into something that isn't 'right' for them. Although, there are some people, who lack any real identity, and need to go find one. (But shouldn't do this by modelling themselfs after a mPUA. Dont try to be the next AFC Adam/Gambler/Mystery/Tyler, be the 1st YOU!

In my last post it's kinda relevant to this. I think people need to sit down, and think about two things.
1) The person they ARE
2) The person they WANT TO BE

The person you ARE
When I say this, I'm not really talking about any bad habbits, etc, or bad, not even necessarily good personality traits. But your core values. This may sound a little contradictory to what I just said, but also a bit about who you are, how you behave, your good points, rather, your unique points. Now while the worlds so vast that it's hard to say anything is ever truly 'unique', there are certain things about you, that make you 'you'. Some of these things are what gives you your character, and aren't things you should necessarily change. But what you can carry forward with you through your change.

The person you WANT TO BE
Now, think about the person you want to be. By this, I don't mean think of a person(who already exists), and try to become them. I mean, think of the ideal you, the person you would like to be. What would he do, what would he say, how would he say things, how would he act, what would he wear. Etc etc.

Those are really the things you need to be asking yourself.
Use only the material you think will be useful to helping you become what it is you want. Only the information you need. And do things in life that will help you become this person, this ideal 'you' that you want to become.



P.S: Didn't mean to hijack your thread there, B. (Might have to copy paste this and put it in my post.)



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Yeah true, it's a sad fact that this is common sense (to me at least) but people can go their whole lives without questioning barely anything.

I did this, originally. For the first six months or so, I wasn't really me. Bad times . Definitely a healthy reminder.

But what about opposite George...that would be confusing, a waste of a good Seinfeld episode.

Absolutely disagree.

Desperation is the catalyst for change. If you SUCK, how much suckier can you get? If you suck at picking up women, then consider a fucking change. The sentiments of the initial post of this thread is the very reason why so many guys are STUCK in the World of SUCK-DOM. This isn't just a matter of being good or bad with women, it's the matter of being inflicted with a serious disease.

You see it all the time on this forum; kids share their sob stories but don't do a thing to change. They complain about it and yet, they go right back to the cycle over, over, and over again. Others are so sick that they actually FISH for validation here. . . and yet others are even more sick that they give it to them. "Yes, you did OK kid! Great routine! Just keep going! It must have been that crazy bitch's fault! Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't! You're definitely an all star PUA! . . . Hurray!" My experience is that there is no SPAM for ANYBODY this delusional. Can you think of any facet in life where an addiction to SUCK-DOM will help people to progress?

Heroin addiction has NOTHING on the addiction to SUCK-DOM. Think of all the losers you've known (not the derogatory insult but the people who REALLY DO NOTHING and REALLY DO LOSE) in life. How many do you know who actually change things around long term? I'd put this "figure" head to head with people who beat heroin any day.

If YOU SUCK at what you want to do, then go ahead and BE SOMEBODY ELSE. Do their exercises, study what they study, eat what they eat. At least then, you would let go of your ugly ADDICTION to SUCK-DOM. At least then, you'd have the POWER TO SEE yourself clearly.

The sick don't have the ability to question. They don't know the process. All the know is their addiction. Instead of questioning? They fish for ANYTHING that validates their addiction and then call it, "Questioning authority". Think of ANY other addiction out there. This is exactly the way it works.

Find your style? Find your ABILITY first.

Good point, LB... we are always trying to change ourselves for the better, but it's never ending. We need to be happy with the person we ARE and less dead set on who want WANT to be. Often times there is too far of a gap, and we need to set smaller and more realistic goals for improvement. I see many newer guys come into the chat and just have the goal of "I want to be mPUA" when they're starting out at "SUCK-DOM" (kasabi, lol).

B is trying to let everyone know to not take things so seriously, because some people will sacrifice many other things such as school and work just to get better at picking up chicks. Is it really that important? Why not just work on it in your free time, once you've gotten other crap out of the way. Or, just work on it on the weekends when you may normally go out anyway. There's a balance to everything, obsession and indulgence can lead to cancer

This is why I love inner game, because it doesn't really lead to crazy dramatic changes and 360 degree (180 degree, B haha) turns.. it's more subtle. It's lesser of the physical world and more of the inner.. we are all too clingy too concerned with what happens in our surroundings and less of how we constantly feel on a second-to-second basis. Outer game can stem from inner. How you feel radiates outward. Solid inner game will leave you to view girls of the same value and not of higher value (that's a big start)

I don't see a reason to go ape-shit on fixing the way you look, talk, dress, walk. That would be weird to people who know you, seeing you completely change over night. If you're gonna do that, do it sloooowly. Work on one thing at a time

Oh no! Oh my God! Ooooohhhhh. . . My wearing the red bandanna over the green one is going to really, really be weird to OTHER PEOPLE! Ooooohhhhh . . . They're going to be really upset!!! Go with the pink . . .pink . . .and then red. That's the way. One step at at time.

Well i think it's better to make minor tweaks to your outer appearance/style than to totally completely change what you look and feel like so dramatically. It's like an identity crisis..and ego shocker!! WOOO!!!



...and this is what happens what you go too far

First off, those two guys get laid more than you do...

And, Bonita, I agree with your post! People read too much and understand too little! But they are desperate to change their life! Their life sucks and they need a kick in the ass to get started. An avatar can help them to do it without hiding under their bed every time they wanna approach a girl.

However, I do believe that they should still be careful! Still apply critical thinking. I have lost girls being too macho, too much of a PUA stereotype. Thats my own fault for going with what I thought would work. But there is a time and place for the PU arts. It cannot be on 24-7. If it is your lifestyle then yes, no problems, then it is who you are. But if you find yourself thinking, what would Mystery say, you are lost.

The thing people really need to learn is to calibrate! To feel what is right!

But I thank you for posting this!

Ezo

Holy crap, Mystery looks like one of those Mortal Kombat ninjas!

One of the biggest things I preach about is to not be the best person ever, but to be the best person one can be. If everyone looked the same, acted the same, and talked the same, the world would be pretty boring. See Asian people.

getting laid won't get you anywhere and it doesn't prove anything, it makes you feel good for one night but it doesn't add to your life on long term. i could fuck dozens of sluts but that only tells me im a slut as well ( according to my standards)
''thinking what to be or what you should be'' really points out to some serious inner game issues , we are all human and therefore is our base the same. The fun thing is that people often talk about calibration ... ''i calibrate to these girls, i calibrate to this'' stop doing that and calibrate to yourself ! and let them calibrate to you ! Calibrate to your life and start thinking what you really want in life

what i've actually discovered is that the BEST things comes when you least expect it, Style is nonsense .. ability is better - it's like comparing MMA to karate you can't compare those 2. Like bruce lee said : be like water be formless, things that won't work could work in another scenario or part of your life.
You have guys bragging about peacocking and guys bragging about methods.... i don't peacock and im dressed regular and nowadays i have 10 times more succes than the times i peacocked.
we are all unique and no human is the same.. the only thing we share is we are human, being a pua won't make your life better on the long run - your education and job will.

my point of view : as a serious practicioner of martial arts for many years i often searched for the perfect fighting style/system ( ''red bandana..no wait pink is better'' ) , after a long time i found out there is no such thing. It's not about who's a better fighter - it's about who fights the best. i found out a deeper understanding into martial arts it's not about fighting at all ; it's expressing yourself through movement - It's about learning and finding the real you aka a deeper understanding. the one who fights the best is the one who is achieving goals that is changing his life and the life of people around him - Being a warrior.

the warrior doesn't cheat himself and he does not hide the truth for himself - the warrior ultimately knows there is a solution to everything and the real warrior seeks the sollution himself. people who believe all those pua stuff and post on this board are seeking answers from someone else - out of interest but mostly out of a lack of confidence.
The warrior inspirates and lift the people around him because he knows working in a team is 10 times more effective than working alone. BUT The warrior walks his own path alone and doesn't blame anyone - taking full responsibility knowing walking the path of truth alone makes him stronger.
A warrior isn't someone who fights for mindless bloodshet, he is someone who fights for what he believes in and refuses to give up.

Im only 22 years old But as a former Drug addict , heroine user , mentally ill patient i agree with kasabi to a high degree , i tottally agree people searching validation are merely hiding the truth from themselfs. There are no rules in life , god didn't let you came out of your mom with a bible/ rules of life book in your hand- you decide the rules for yourself and should not judge other people.
I became clean for the second time... people around me couldn't help me as validation from other won't really help you - it's only a temporarily bandage on the gaping wound.
i just locked myself in my room for a long long time and achieved my goal ... i acted like a warrior , ultimately i can only help myself no matter what other say.

for me this whole PUA stuff isn't about opening sets, getting laid, numbers or kiss closes. It's about finding a deeper understanding about who i am like the previous example about martial arts i mentioned above. throughout my ''PUA'' journey i have found out i have a terrible generalizing image of woman and many things more. YOU CAN ONLY SUCK IF YOU DON'T MAKE MISTAKES ... mistakes are the start of learning and your whole life is a process of learning. it's another charactistic of the warrior ; he knows his mistakes and is eager to learn from it no matter how bad it is and no matter how many '' bullets '' you take - you just don't lie to yourself and accept it as a mistake from which you get stronger.

i don't blame my fiance for the dead of our child and i don't blame my other GFs that cheated on me, it's hard but i have to learn from it so i can be stronger and better next time. Life isn't sugar coated and god didn't sugar coat it, so stop sugar coating it - there are alot of things to discover and you have to appreciate succes as much as mistakes. You don't have to say sorry against anyone as long you learn you lesson out of it, you could be sincerely sorry without realizing and learning a very important lesson. i believe both people are responsible for a conflict and i totally believe fights/conflicts happen not out of injustice or anger BUT i believe they happen out of ignorance.

if someone insults me and keeps treating me like shit i won't become mad, i actually feel sympathy for that certain person because she/he acts like that way because out of ignorance. soon she will meet a boyfriend with lose hands and will beat the crap out of her, people will treat you like you treat them and often people don't realise that - so my goal is teaching people lessons by confronting them with the truth without getting angry or emotional. therefore you can rely 100 % on me im 100 % loyal to you and im 100 % dedicated to you even if you don't show me respect, if you cheat on me then you are just a slut that only prove i can get better girls - i tell you that without getting angry.

All people will feel guilt/ regret sooner or later... if they don't feel that or don't learn their lessons they will make the same mistakes over and over because they are blinded by their own artificial prowes/ artificial self image aka EGO.
NEVER NEVER lower yourself to someone who is applying low behaviour.

now i ask you : what are you going to do with your life... what do you believe in ?

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Thanks, bro. (:
I understand what you mean here. But theres a big thing that comes to this... Friends/family have their perceptions of you, everyone does. And to them, that's who you are. If to them, you are 'little dorky computer boy', any change away from that character, they will dislike, as they will feel they are losing 'you'. If you take the 'risk' of changing the way you dress/act into something quite daring, or obviously different/stand out-ish... friends/family will be quick to say 'why are you wearing/doing that? ...that's not you' ...this often results in people fearing the rejection of their new change, and so they just return to their usual way of being that fits in with their friends/families view of them to keep them happy.
The thing is, honestly, after a few days/weeks/whatever of you sticking by this change, they will have gotten used to it/realised you're serious about it, and they will accept it. Maybe some wont, but then they probably have some issues of their own as to why, but I'm sure that will be a few. (unless you're a crip and start dressing in red).

The other thing to sometimes bare in mind is "old friends don't necessarily suit new lifestyles".

Good to see most people making good valuable points. (:



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Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
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SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

saw this movie on another post
bruce-lee-vocal-awesomeness-vt59160.html
this is exactly what i was trying to say above.

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Great video . . .

I actually know the person who taught Bruce Lee the "side kick". This maneuver does not exist in Kung Fu. Its origin are 100% Korean Tae Kwon do.

The layperson might think that Bruce Lee just added "one new kick" to his arsenal but it's simply not the way things work. He realized the shortcomings of his style and DESTROYED IT. With an open mind, he sought a completely new way to use his body.