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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:06 am 
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There are a lot of posts and misconceptions out there concerning being a man.

I thought I would give you my thoughts on the matter.

The real eyecatcher for all you guys was probably in the headline! How can anyone kiss another guy?!? That is terrible, is he gay????

No Im not. Not even bisexual. But I do know what is important and what is not. It was a planned thing, the only way I could AMOG the guy without being a loser. As I was kissing the girl we both liked and another girl at the same time... And made the girls kiss. So he said that now everybody had kissed except us. Hey that was to test my strength and if I wouldnt I would be the loser.

So I get this message from some newbie who says "Sorry man, real men doesnt kiss other dudes."

That scared me. Are you guys that insecure that you need to prove your sexuality to yourselves? Are you guys so weak that you cant take that kind of damage in order to achieve something more? The end does justify the means.

You watch a lot of tough guys on TV and you think that hey thats an alpha male. Yes it is but its TV. That guy plays the role in scenes written for him. You cannot do that, life isnt scripted. A man is not always the tough guy. The man does not always fight for his alpha male position.

And why does he not do that? Because he does not have to! Consider this. You got a pack of lions, the alpha male lies around in the sun, he doesnt do very much. Up comes the young lion trying to challenge him for the leadership of the pack. The males might have to fight but if the outcome is given they dont. The alpha male wins.
So all of you guys going around challenging each other to AMOG battles, you are the beta males challenging the leader.
I (who consider myself alpha) on the other hand am the one welcoming you to my group, if you play by my rules.
1. Dont touch my stuff (females)
2. Challenge me and I will beat you down verbally.
3. Dont outlive your welcome by being losers.

A real alpha male rarely have to fight, he does when he needs to but avoids it if he can.
Now again, dont get your hopes up, not fighting can also be the behaviour of a weakling, if you dont have strong inner game then you belong to the males who know they will lose any fight and avoid it because of that.

So the beta males (or upcoming alphas) seek challenges. They are excessively loud and take up way more space then they need to. They make a point of doing just that. And it shows. They are trying too hard. These guys determine their ranking by the males they have defeated, if you defeat a guy, you take his place and he moves down. Notice how these people have already decided that they attack from below. They need to climb.

A real alpha male doesnt attack. A real alpha comes from above. He will treat everybody in a good way as long as they dont challenge him. The alpha male takes up exactly the amount of space he needs and use exactly the voice he needs to be heard. Anything more would be a waste of air. He doesnt apologize for taking up a lot of space, if he needs that space. Someone comes up to him and ask him to move so they can sit there as well. Of course he moves, they sit there, courtesy of the leader. They had to ask, he has already won. It wasnt about space at all.

So you see, the alpha male is not afraid, doesnt need to protect himself unless challenged. And above all, he is not afraid to be generous with his power, he has got enough to spare.

And he isnt afraid to kiss a dude if it suits his purposes. If you are afraid of it, that only shows you fears and that is not alpha.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:41 am 
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Man... there are way more efficent ways to AMOG a guy than kissing him.

Why didnt you reframe it as he being gay or needy or that he secretly likes you. Or why didnt you just pull the girls away...
Or why werent you just honest and tell the girls that he is trying to AMOG you by kissing you.

Guys are just ugly girls. And kissing an ugly girl isnt cool.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:58 am 
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You know what prosp3ct, there are different ways for him to deal with this situation, but the way that he dealt with it is exactly how I would have.

Being a man isn't about banging girls, it isn't about competing with other men, in fact - this whole community is about not competing with other people at all. It's loving everyone. It's showing respect for everything unless they prove that they don't deserve it.

What Ezo did was cool, I respect him for it. Kudos to him.


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Prosp3ct.

The thing is, when it comes down to it. I was presented with a challenge. I could either, back off, find an emergency exit or take it like a man.

And even though you guys are completely with the gayness of this story. Thats not the main point.


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WTF. I tell girls that I'm gay all the time and have few gay friends as well so I dont have any problem with gayness.

But I'm saying that if you kiss a guy just to get a girl you're lower value by definition.
I mean WTF. Some random girl made you kiss a guy just because she's hot.
I would understand if you would be gay or bisexual than at least you would enjoy it.

But you're not gay or bi just because you dont enjoy kissing guys for fuck sake!!!

You dealt with situation so total respect for that. You have balls.

But you put the girl automaticaly above you just by doing something you dont like doing. Alpha would never do that.

If you're really alpha you can pickup another hot girl without doing something you dont like doing.


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Call me beta all you want but I don't really think I'd kiss a guy with tongues for a girl.

I'm not attracted to fat girls, so I don't kiss them. I'm not attracted to guys so I don't kiss them. Simple.

A lot of your post is spot on but I think you're thinking too hard about this man, not kissing him wouldn't have made you a loser. It doesn't make you anything. I don't like to back down so I probably would've done the same thing, but it doesn't mean that I win anything.

Discussions of alpha are DUMB.
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But you put the girl automaticaly above you just by doing something you dont like doing. Alpha would never do that.
You don't THINK about being alpha. You DO.

I do what I want, and whether I kiss a guy or not and you say whether it conforms to alpha standards or not I really don't care, because I have better things to care about.


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I've read the stuff on gaymogging and to be fair there's some good stuff in there. But this just gets more and more weird...I seriously wonder where people will stop?

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I have no freaking idea about what it is called. And gay stuff is ot the big issue here!!!

I saw a situation and ressolved it without losing power.


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Well I didnt read the story so I cant really judge why or how it was done or for what reason.

However, it all comes to you in this matter, if you beleive that kissing another guy is gay and not in line with your sexuality then why do it.

Sure we act gay sometimes and so to win over the prize but you have to keep in mind too much of anything is bad for you , too much stiff sucks as well.

Keep it at norm.

Id love to read the story by the way.


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I can already see some newbies reading this and than when trying to AMOG a guy in a club thinking ''oh man that PUA said that I have to kiss a guy to AMOG him'':)
No offense Ezo just shooting some shit;)

You resolve the situation and for this you have my respect, but I would just do it other way.

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I can already see some newbies reading this and than when trying to AMOG a guy in a club thinking ''oh man that PUA said that I have to kiss a guy to AMOG him'':)
No offense Ezo just shooting some shit;)

You resolve the situation and for this you have my respect, but I would just do it other way.
Why solve it in another way?


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Call me beta all you want but I don't really think I'd kiss a guy with tongues for a girl.

I'm not attracted to fat girls, so I don't kiss them. I'm not attracted to guys so I don't kiss them. Simple.

A lot of your post is spot on but I think you're thinking too hard about this man, not kissing him wouldn't have made you a loser. It doesn't make you anything. I don't like to back down so I probably would've done the same thing, but it doesn't mean that I win anything.

Discussions of alpha are DUMB.
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But you put the girl automaticaly above you just by doing something you dont like doing. Alpha would never do that.
You don't THINK about being alpha. You DO.

I do what I want, and whether I kiss a guy or not and you say whether it conforms to alpha standards or not I really don't care, because I have better things to care about.
What about judgement? How would an "ALPHA" handle that?


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WOW ! That's all I have to say... Props to you Ezo for overcoming any homophobia and taking a dive, but DAMN I can't help but think someone convinced you to eat a "bugger" and you fell in their trap... (Analogy of course)
Overall Excellent post, I will be pondering this one for awhile...haha


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I can already see some newbies reading this and than when trying to AMOG a guy in a club thinking ''oh man that PUA said that I have to kiss a guy to AMOG him'':)
No offense Ezo just shooting some shit;)

You resolve the situation and for this you have my respect, but I would just do it other way.
Why solve it in another way?
AHAHAHAHAHAHA WHY? what do you mean why. I dont like kissing guys....that's for one thing :lol:

You can reframe it and tell that AMOG to kiss some guy behind him if he wants to kiss a guy. for fuck sake.
You can reframe it as him being a gay and that he is needy and stalking you all over the place all night.
You can turn your back to him for being disrespectful to you.
You can bring some girl to make the AMOG busy.
You can call a wing.
You can make some random guy your wing.
Or you can just take the girls hand and take her away.
.....and many more.

And besides if a girl is making you kiss a guy, then for god's sake think what she will make you do just to fuck her once...and I dont even want to think what she will want you to do everyday if you would be dating her......

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