People are often really surprised when i bring up subjects like relativity, temporal perspective, the universe, etc. into conversations. Not like "oh that's interesting" surprised, but "holy crap, why do you know that" surprised. To describe how I look, I would be a cross between Gambler and Sinn in the "featured posters" pictures at the top of the site's pages. I have a few friends who also know about these subjects; they're pretty damn nerdy-looking, and no one reacts the same way to them when they bring up those topics like they do with me. With me they would double-take as if they were thinking "did that just come out of his mouth?"

I have a bad habit of bringing this stuff up in conversation because I get really excited when I start talking about physics. If a conversation gets deep enough eventually I would be talking about the relative notion of time and how it isn't a linear measurement because each person actually experiences it at different speeds according to their acceleration, how the specifications of our universe are so exact that the likelihood that we exist is almost infinitely astronomically impossible, existence of parallel universes, etc.

To make this clear, I deleted about another paragraph talking about the stuff above before writing this paragraph. That's how into it I get.

My question is this: Does bringing up topics about physics (with appropriate segways, of course) in general turn hb's off? I know that I'm not boring when I do this; I've kept a lot of groups interested for looooong periods of time about this and they ALWAYS ask me questions, lean forward, etc.

But do women find this attractive? Do they think "ooh he's interesting" as opposed to "ooh, that's interesting"?

I'd really like an fPUA's perspective on this if possible, ladies!

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If you just "dumbed it down" so to speak, it might work better. I think they just don't understand it.

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Yeah, I should have specified this. I never go into mathematical equations and shit with people who I know wouldn't understand it. I keep it in layman's terms.

That being said I have burned a few grils out in the past when I overestimated their mental capacity. I would get "Haha what does that mean ur full of shit" or whatever. But I consider that a kind of weeding out I guess.

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The idea about attraction is to make a connection with a girl on some level. I would only talk about all the physics stuff if you find the girl is also into physics and that sort of stuff also but for the most part i would avoidthat subject. Its about making yourself look fun , sociable and easy going without SPAM too much. It could also be seen as look at all the cool stuff that I know. Also it might not be in relation to their mental capacity that they dont understand it but if they are in a club they might not want to stress their brain too much by trying to get their head around it

I know what you feel though and sometimes I want to talk about deep stuff but no I see it as a no go unless the situation feels right.

Good luck

I understand. But I have never brought this stuff up in a loud club or anything. This usually happens when a group of us are chilling at a restaurant late or it's just me and an hb hanging out at some random place. Of course I don't bring it up unless there's a deep conversation going on, but almost any deep conversation leads to physics, interestingly.

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If my post made me appear homosexual, I want you all to know that prior to sitting down at my computer I slammed 15 shots of whiskey, went balls-deep into my woman, and recited Clint Eastwood lines for 20 minutes.

the theory of relativity is wrong, you should be telling them that

Ok, admittedly I'm not the "average girl" by any means, but I like it when a guy can teach me something I don't know. Smart guys, to me, are hot. People who are passionate about something they do, even better.

That said, I kind of know where you're coming from because I have had similar experiences, especially when people ask me what I do (which is sciencey and not easily explained in a sentence). So there, I give a very brief answer, and depending on the reaction of the person I go one of two ways. If they are blank faced and I get the "oh...that sounds fun" I dumb down (and also eliminate that guy from my prospects), and just make my work sound fun. If the guy gets it, I'll be myself, my normal vocabulary, subject matter, etc. It's all calibration.

So what are your goals? If you're looking for something long-term going with someone you have to dumb down for is unsustainable. If you're just looking to have fun and meet people, then calibrate to them. And don't tell the spherical chicken joke

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The above is a woman's POV; may or may not represent the rest of my gender

Seriosuly there is no set rule - women's tastes differ so much. For me it's highly attractive. Some think of a boring man as a man who doesn't go to party's and who doesn't drink or take risks.

For me a boring man is a man who's only interests are beer and cars.

It's nice to have someone who actually knows something about the world, who is interested in the world around them. It's nothing to do with I.Q - it's just showing that you think about things. If I can't have an interesting conversation with them, usually I wouldn't consider sleeping with them either . Obviously the definition of 'interesting conversation' will change a lot depending on who you speak to, so the best thing to do is just play it by ear!

You should look at mystery's way to describe what a IT geek does. Its all about how you tell it. You can tell a girl anything geekie, just find the rigth way.

1. Social Scientists report that "intelligience is the fastest increasing attribute seen in humans during evolution". If that is true then girls MOST OBVIOUSLY select on intelligience and have been doing so for hundreds of thousands of years. I've talked with HBs about this. Usually I've found the BIGGEST turn off in men for them is "a retard" -- meaning someone with extremely low raw IQ. Remember, a women often is turned on by a guy "who she thinks will give her 'HOT' kids" via gene pool. Just biology in action.

2. I have two PhDs. One in Physics and one in Materials Engineering (from PAC-10 & Big-10 schools). My experience is that I DO NOT EVER TALK TECHNICAL in a social setting with women OR men. First, most people have no idea what you are talking about and therefore find you boring. For example, to get into an INTRODUCTORY college physics class, you need a LOT of prerequisites that most people haven't had (geometry, algebra, trigonometry, calculus, physical science). And this thread is talking about Relativity etc which is not taught usually until the THIRD year of college for a Physics Major. Second, I think most women & people in general can smell bullshit after a while. My observation is that I've seen (usually men) talking this stuff "to sound cool" and it doesn't work. (I don't look like a nerd at all. I look -- really -- like a beefed out U.S. Marine. So people have no idea -- and I like that -- of my educational background.) I've seen guys use this approach and I laugh because usually they are partially wrong and don't even have a clue. Usually girls will change the subject. If they're into a guy they're into him for other reasons than talking TECH.

Just my two cents ...

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If you can speak about something with passion this is very sexy.

The trick is to talk about it in ways that they understand why you love it - so maybe tell them how you got your love for it.

Oh my god, I totally forgot about that joke. My biology major fried told it to me and some other people and only I laughed. Then I was all embarrassed.

But thanks for the input! yeah I can usually calibrate how girls will act on certain topics after talking to them for awhile and adjust my vocabulary to match theirs. This is usually where I find what my goals are with a girl. I don't expect people to comprehend everything I say, It took me awhile to get it all down as well, but if they do seem interested in that kind of stuff and are able to ask questions and challenge me the it brings up a mental flag that says "keeper".
Agreed. I guess this is one of the ways I can differentiate myself from most other guys. I don't pretend to be a genius, this kind of stuff just fascinates me and I like talking about it, but I do sometimes have to learn whether other people would also be as interested.
Haha, man I'm pretty sure that I'm accurate when I talk about physics, but if a physics major were to bust my balls about something that I had no clue about it would probably shatter my ego. Luckily there aren't many of them in the field. And yeah, again I never go into technical stuff other than describing famous experiments like a watch on an airplane. If I DID meet a physics major I could probably keep up a good conversation with him/her, but since I'm not a physics major a lot of technical things would probably go over my head as well.

In the case of biology I'm sure that intelligence is a factor in attractiveness, but I don't think it's one of the higher-priority traits women generally look for. Intelligence has grown fast because the stupid humans died out before they could reproduce and the smart ones lived on to have lots of kids, and eventually they vastly outnumbered the stupid ones. Again, I'm positive that intelligence is a key factor in attractiveness, but I know a lot of decent-looking guys who are way smarter than I am who are unfortunately still virgins.

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If my post made me appear homosexual, I want you all to know that prior to sitting down at my computer I slammed 15 shots of whiskey, went balls-deep into my woman, and recited Clint Eastwood lines for 20 minutes.

I learned that before talking about something like physics is that it is best to judge the intelligence of the group/person you are talking to before you bring up the subject. As people tend to show how intelligent they are when you are talking to them in general conversation. I also use this to gage what topics I do talk about and how I go about them.