Hi

I'm Chaz, I'm 17 years old from the UK.

I am no PUA, because a PUA degrades women with their deceitful games in the hope to get laid. They only work for short term but do not ensure you a long healthy relationship with a QUALITY WOMAN. What I have found is that they deliberately give you these "tactics" to get women, but yet the people giving you them just know that it is down to confidence and not being a dick.

I learn from a guy called Michael Marks. What he has managed to do is find out how attraction actually works and manages to pinpoint little areas that will enhance this.

But hey, this bit told me to introduce myself - so I did

Peace

Im interested in this Michael Marks guy. Do you have any examples of the types of things he uses to help move along natural attraction?

Not all PUA's degrade women. Get your facts straight bro.

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Have you actually read these forums? Sure there are the fclose posts but most of us are just trying to better ourselves in ALL aspects of life. Women are just a part of that. The fact is some of us, myself included, have had are hard time over-analyzing things with women. All PUA does is give you the tools to get out of your own way, instead of constantly obsessing with how you're coming off or what to do next, it builds a process and a game plan so you can eventually just be yourself without having so many guards up. Take a look at the natural game section, sounds like that's what you're looking for. Good luck and may your journey go well.

I've been reading this site quite a bit and I haven't seen more than two posts that I thought were even borderline degrading.
In my experience a person can take absolutely anything and make it negative, and of course some guys are going to take advantage of these 'tools'. Don't judge the entire PUA population because of it.

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