damn, it was so easy and i f*** up nevertheless.

in a club - was introduced to a girl who seemed quite interested instantly. asked me about my job (as my friend started this topic) and went quite kino. after a few minutes she grabbed my hand and dragged me to a couch to continue talking. best ioi you can imagine. rightfully i thought i was in, should have kiss closed immediately.

but seems it all went to fast for me, didn't have the courage and started some DHV instead. started with the maury pauvic routine and continued with ESP - told her to think of a number between 1 and 10. i could sense how she cooled off and got more uninterested every minute. until the talk freezed and she said "ok, let's take a look around in the club" and stood up. naturally i didn't follow her, it was clear i blew it.

guess i just went 'backwards'. starting the routines after i was already in for kissing actually put her off. or what do you think? what would you propose to do after sitting down with her - apart from kiss closing immediately. going kino? guess i should have done the photo routine....

Buddy, seems to me like your obsessing on routines and rituals as a defence mechanism. Don't forget what your there for, become more fluid with your materials, enough to know when not to use them.

But don't be too hard on yourself, you got her to the couch, and as you say, the possibility for kiss close was there, all good things.

OK here's the thing...

If she's hitting on you.. you do NOT have to show all these DHV's and routines. One day when this happens again with some other girl just tell her that you were not interested in her when you first saw her (neg), but for some reason NOW you feel very drawn to her (reward)...

Just an idea... But I am sure other board members can add to it or suggest something totally different.

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