Have you ever felt the strong sexual vibe around homosexual persons?

Gay guys are the one who gets laid the most in our society today. Let's learn from them.

Anyway.

The first thing. Is being perceived as a gay person a good thing in order to pu chicks?


Positive sides

For girls, it seems that it doesn't "count" to have sex with a gay dude. Having sex with a homosexual doesn't count, so she won't feel guilty. In that case the ASD will be much lower.

Also she will not fall in love with you because she thinks you are gay. So you avoid this kind of lmr.

She will perceive you as similare to her, and will be more open with you. She feels like you are her friend. In fact the friendzone is gold. When I pick up a girl, I set up a sexual friendship. Yes, let's call it "Let's Just Be Fuck Buddies". Being sexual over it is VERY important.

It's pretty well known that gay guys are sick mother fuckers when it comes to sex. This will create a sexual prizing effect. She will perceive you as a good lay out of the bat.

Gay guys do weird shit with each other, the reason they do this is because they are very open because they are similare, and they know they both like weird shit, because they are both the same sex. In our society, people believes the opposite sex is so different, but infact it's not.

Gay guys are also non-judgemental. Women knows this because they are often surrounded by gay guys.
This is also key, because a women seeks a man who she can release herself sexually with.
The problem with most relationships these days, is due to bad sex. Bad sex comes from being nervous, and not releasing yourself.

Negative sides

Gayguys are attracted to men, aren't they?
This removes all signs of availability.
If you don't show any availability, your target will not invest in you. She will not allow herself to create any attraction for you.

They will also not invest sexually in a women. They won't turn them on. And the result of this, is that women won't get turned on lol.

Some gay men doesn't have the attractive masculine traits.
These are: Leading, being aware they have a cock to shootblast on titts and finally the hunter instict. Keep the in mind and express them, Always!!!

There is less negative points when it comes to act gay, but the one who are, are really important points.

Solution?

Simple....

You act kind of Bisexual. By the way, if you really want to verbalize it to a girl, say you are bisexual. Women love bisexual men. they are imediatly thinking "threesome".

But here is the key. Metrosexual is the key!

You act like a gay guy, you talk a bit gayish, but please, don't have a light voice. Light voices are turn offs.

Dress a bit gayish, I wear flashy T-shirts, many colors, tight jeans, fancy shoes, super fashionable haircut and big sunglasses.

Do gaymoves. Walk like a fucking gay guy. Do gayish facial expressions. You know exactly what I mean. If you don't, watch a movie containing gays...

Dance!!! fuck man, dance!!! another good point.

Be horny! Gay guys are always horny! Stop jacking off!

And finally act sexuall

But now you will appear 100% gay! but you are not gay, infact you want to fuck the shit out of women.

So here is the key! Be sexual. Touch... physical contact, and sexual non-verbal iois is key. These are:
_ Touching, sexual kino! Don't hesitate to touch her ass or pussy!
_ Expressing horniness! Voice, whispering, strong breath.
_ Eye contact.
_ Seductive facial expression.
_ Generate sexual tension, get into tension mode.

Also, the right frame you need is a sexual frame. Which can also be set with dirty talking or having a guenuine sex talk.

Let me recap. You act gay... but you CAN also:
_ Show that you want her out of your own horniness (expressing horniness)
_ Creating sexual tension
_ Setting up a sexual frame (sex talk/statement of sexual intent)

You don't need to do them all, but at least one is required, or you will end up lie Mehow.

Also another key, is to set sexual frames early. If you act gay, and suddently 30 minutes later you start acting sexual you just appear like a sneak, who used the gay mask to sneak your way into her. Women recognize this, since it's an old trick. This can burn your set. You don't want to get the "I thought you were gay"

Now If a girl ask you if you are gay, just shut the fuck up and caveman her. She better understand you are not gay this way, but never make anything official. women own no logic, so avoid dealing with it.

If she really begs you for it to tell her you are metrosexual (light statement) or bisexual (stronger statement, require more claibration).

Now, you also need to lead. you have to be sexual, you have to lead the way to the lay. This is very attractive and also required, because women wants you to take the guilt for the sex. For some weird reasons it removes a lot of their ASD.
You are the one who makes things happen, so a quick tip is, have your logistics ready!

This was everything for today, hope you enjoyed it.

Recap: Act gay, but also act sexual. You are the gay guy who shows sexual intent toward women.

Questions?

TeVeAi!

Edit:

Important message

Infact, you are not verbalizing that you are gay, you just act like it. So it never become official, for this reason you don't have to tell her you are not gay later on.

Also it's obvious that you are not gay becauswe you are escalating sexually on her. She better notice your not gay when you are touching her pussy. Metro sexual guys do exist so it won't be that much of a shock.

You don't say you are gay you just behave gayish and add sexual intent over it and show interest to the girl.

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I knew a girl who had a 'gay' boyfriend whom she would have sex with. She even invited me to join her and her gay friend but that was really wierd to me so I passed up the offer.

Let me know how the gay-scam works out for you.

Keep in mind that some girls want masculine men, so even being somewhat metro-sexual might hurt your chances. And girls who are into gay guys, i know only one so I cannot tell you how many girls that are out there are into this. And she even had some other issues to boot.

Maybe in a big city with a big gay population this would work but I doubt it would work in a small town.

Open to comments on this one.

Best,

J-Dub

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You need to be a good player if your gonna be successful at the game.

Looks like an effective technique, but I'd say it would get awkward if you decide that you want to actually date a girl you gamed using this method. Sure you can invent the fact that she made you turn to girls, but what happens when she meets people that you know who have always known you as a straight guy? Crap is what would happen.

Unless you decide to tell her the truth, but that can be a gamble.

Personally I see it as the coward's way out. Sure it seems easier and stress-free to go at it like that... but come on, isn't it just completely weird, going out pretending that you're gay? That's one of the weirdest things a guy can do.

Might work, but my pride stops me from trying that out.

Great post, ive read about this kind of thing before..
I LOL'd at that mehow comment,

I have the perfect example of this.. you need to be metro. It helps to do things like tan, workout, shave your face, get stylish haircuts, wear stylish clothing, etc. Basically take care of your body.

Alex from BB9 is a GREAT example: (theres 10 min of footage where he's 100% self amusing and flirting with the girls somehwere)

PS im pretty sure he fucked the 2 hottest girls in that house.

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Key. this definatly works. But by acting gay,most amogs will stay away of homofobie.

Your idea is awesome. I fully agree with it
This is a forum, i share what works for me, right. ME!

And me = sexually open dude. It's not incongurent because I have done many bisexual acts in the past, such as havign sex with a man. It's far from dishonest for me

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Important

Infact, you are not verbalizing that you are gay, you just act like it. So it never become official, for this reason you don't have to tell her you are not gay.

Also it's obvious that you are not gay becauswe you are escalating sexually on her.

You don't say you are gay you just behave gayish and add sexual intent over it and show interest to the girl. [/b]

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I have a questin about Social value regarding this.

There is a big diffrence between men and women.
Women who are straight will check out girls to determine their value.
No need to go into how much easier it is to pick up a girl who has seen you
with other beautiful women.

Guys dont do this. At least not the majority of straight men.

Im curious if its possible to attract a girl under opposit circumstance.
Lets say Im Bi-sexual. And she realises I've dated men that are of grater value then she has ever been with.
Would this come out as the same Pre-selection-Value
that is with other women?

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At this point this forum topic needs to be discussed with a woman with experience dating men of a homo/bisexual background.

This is uncharted waters indeed.

J-Dub

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Its better to be the predator than the prey.

You need to be a good player if your gonna be successful at the game.

THere's nothing GAY about Metrosexuals!

I'm a metro and never have I ever been perceived as gay, and I had I'd be quite offended (although I wouldn't show it). Hell, I even wear girls bracelets and I've never been thought of as gay.

I think this is the most ridiculous thread I've seen here; I laughed at the title but hey if this is you and it works fair play to you my man!
That isn't dressing gayish - it;s stylish!

taking care of yourself, being sexually open, wearing good clothing, and being expressive can be done without being gay. Although acting gay towards an amog sounds pretty effective. I've been hit on by guys a few time and it always makes me feel uncomfortable and wanting to gtfo before I hurt the guy.

This is a spot on post of a fun routine and it's 100% the correct way to pull it off to the last detail. Well . . . other than the lying. Really, you don't need to tell her that you're bi or whatever . . .

If they try to put you on the spot verbally, just pull them along in an endless loop as you sexually escalate:

Her: Are you gay?
You: What? Just because I got hit on by that guy? . . .

Her: So you're not gay?
You: Are you homophobic?

Her: Why can't you give me a straight answer?
You: Are you in law enforcement? You'd look sexy in a police outfit . . .

And this only works because you're zoning in and escalating sexually. You're creating both sexual frustration and verbal frustration and compounding this energy into one fat ball of horniness. She wants answers and she wants to identify. But if you give up too easily, the curiosity ends. The mystery is gone . . . and with it, a bit of that sexual energy is also released. Save it up so that her sexual energy is released through sexual acts.

Oslo:
Good Post!
I used the gaymog sometimes when i go out, together with Jav, it rocks your boxors

Jav: You know what we are going todo now right *hahahaha*

kasabi: Good post, once again

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I wanna start this post by saying that its great how you can always bring something new to the table and observe " old " stuff through new frames. And this post doesent make an exception among those other posts.

This is my point of view to the whole subject:

Why " act " and not be yourself. I mean, why try to BE something else what you aint. Sure, this thing can work greate for a guy who is sexually interested about guys and girls but if not than is this something that really improves me as a person? Is this the way the which makes me one with myself around girls and generally in life? Or is this just a mask to cover my flaws because im acting in a way im not?
If you ask me, the only way you can actually become a more better " PUA" / person is to accept the real you. Sure, almost all of us rolled in to this community inorder to get girls. But aint that just the first step in a way to improve yourself as a person? When you can accept the real you and keep that inner peace while socializing with girls, you are in your comfort zone instead of being someone/ something else. You can operate fluently without any fears or anxities because you dont reject your flaws as you would be doing while playing something else what you aint.
Instead of a barrier, you can function through those fears and flaws due to the fact that you see them as an opportunity to improve your life. In a way to become a better YOU.

The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb

The only Zen you can find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there. ~Robert M. Pirsig

Instead of rejecting your flaws and the real you, dont hide behind something what you aint. Instead, use those things to improve the real you by becomming more one with yourself. You being one with you, is the way what makes you a good " pua " because only than you can operate inside that comfort zone of yours.

[ Johnny B ]

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I agree with what Johnny B says and I really think that acting "gay" is weak. You have to learn to work on your inner game so you are putting your real character on the line with nothing to hide.

Really think about why in hell you would want to act gay?