Hey Guys,

Im new to the community but I have been learning about sarging for a few months now. I actually kinda like the girl I met and would like some pointers.

So I go to the biggest nightclub in my town wednesday night with my wing, with who I've been learning with and analyze lot's of situations. Before getting to the bar there was a huge accident on the highway that happen right in front of us. We are both lifeguards so we helped the people out and stuff while waiting for the ambulance. (Awesome DHV story that I've been using for the past week).

So we arrive at the bar and already know some groups. We talk about what happen and shit while checking out the place for sets. My friend starts opened the first group that night HB6-7 not that hot but just to get some more social proof and practice in. I come in and wing him we don't talk for too long and leave the set so we can come back and talk to them later on.. it went fairly well but they ignored us for the rest of the night. About this... I need tips on how to wing properly it seems that when I wing or my friend wings me, we tend to divide the attention way too much.

Ok so a bit later I see two girls I know (HB9s) dancing on the speakers. One of my buddies points them out. The target was wearing this tight red dress and has blond hair.. anyways everyone noticed her. I was lucky to know her friend that she was dancing with, (friend of my sister.). So I go get my wing and we wait for them to get down without them seeing us. Once they get down I hurry to engage them b4 any other of the dudes or AMOGs do.

Me: HB1 Name!!! (Girl I know)
HB1: My Name!!
HB2: something like hi
HB1 Hugs me and kiss' me.. shes kinda drunk she just got dumped ( I learn this later on)

So then I ask how they know each other real fast and explain rapidly why I know HB1 without saying much about me. My wing shows about about now and asks them if they want to go dance on the speakers again. So I help them up and dance with the HB2 right away.. HB1 is dancing with this other dude that is really trying hard to kiss her.

Me: Wow some guys are pretty easy huh?
HB2: Yeah, I hate them. No respect at all (shes 100% sober)
Me: Its gonna take a lot more then dancing for me to start trying to kiss you.

So we talk about this a bit while dancing then I get down and leave her. About 6 guys ask me how I know her after wards. Now I go see friends and just wait till she gets off the dance floor to go talk to her. I just open with a Hey and proceed to talk about why her friend is such an easy girl tonight and how I don't like those. Then I run the Fuck Marry Kill routine witch works pretty well. At this point I have her isolated. She tells me her name for some reason (dont remember sorry.. I didnt ask it), So I start negging her on how she just gives her name up easily and stuff and how she needs to earn mine. So I make her try and guess mine and shit. And neg her on her hair. Then I start DHV telling her I went to Hawaii and how surf is better then sex.. (girls love it when I explain the feeling of surfing a wave) and I tell her i'm going to australia soon with my bud to do my oceanic lifeguard. She tells me shes a lifeguard.. anyways.. we talk for about 10-15mins . I think I was in the comfort zone but then my friend txts me that he lost his car keys.. so I have to leave.. So I tell her to add me on facebook since her name is too common or something like that. (very very bad move on my part =x).

So I wait till she adds me for 2days and she doesnt.. I finaly add her at xmas with a message saying MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!. I catch her on the chat and small talk and negg her by saying that needs to come to this other club tonight with her hair better fixed up. To impress me. She says maybe cause she has some friends that might go. Finally we went to that bar and it sucked balls so we just left.. without waiting to see if she would show.

So this is where I'm at.. no number yet. I could easily get it from one of her friends or w.e but I rather wait to get it from her in person... I imagine waiting makes it look like your not that interested right? Oh and the HB2 dumped her boyfriend like 5 days ago and I know him. Please tell me what is good and bad please. BTW im 17 and shes 19. (Its 18 to go out here in quebec) Thanks! Oh and sorry for wall of text.. =x

Hackblade

on winging...

i dnt really know what you guys do when your on a sarge, but here's the best tips I can give for you guys since you're starting out and you're really young (it's a good thing btw, just learn to manage your priorities).

HAVE A PLAN

Me and my wing, Tornado, always have a game-plan before we go out. This could be a goal to achieve (x numbers of openings, number-close, kiss-close). This could be as a team or personal goal. It makes it easier to see how far your gonna take the interaction ie. not wasting time and effort on useless sets.

If it does go far than the objective, GOOD! Just be aware of your wing and what's he's up to. You don't wanna be a dick who leaves your wing in the middle of a sarge. You're both in this thing together. Support each other.


HANDLING OBSTACLES

The first skill to learn to be a good wing is to handle the obstacles. As I said above, it helps to have a plan and choose the targets. It's usually first dibs for the guy who opened the set. It's sort of courtesy to the PUA who opened since he's a bit lower value since he's putting his self out there, compared to the guy who's just merging with the set.

It doesn't matter if you divide the attention, that's the whole point! You need to give each other a chance to isolate your targets from the group (or even split the group if it's huge).

on your situation...

NEGGING

There was too much unnecessary negging. Based on your story there's little to no A2(female to male attraction) or A3(male to female attraction). Easy on the negs, callibrate it to match the social-status of your target and how hot she actually is. I learned that lesson hard, when I neg a girl way too much when I got her on the first one. After the first one she was basically qualifying herself to me, my mistake was I got carried away (I was still starting out).

INTERACTION

One thing I learned through Gaming is that KINO is the fastest way to escalate the interaction, when you're isolated. So isolate as soon as you can. Touch a woman (or girl in this case; I mean c'mon she's 19) the right way and she will go nuts. Combine that with high DHV routines (the best ones are personality reading, and teaching them new tricks; not necesarily magic ones, and some of your DHV stories).

CLOSING

I think you made the wrong move by adding her and not waiting on her. I mean regardless if she doesn't add you on Facebook it doesn't really matter, it sounds more like a flake to me and since you added her, it lowers your value.
Yours and her social circle are close anyway, don't worry bout it too much. You'll soon find out after sarging longer, there's a lot of hotter girls out there. Don't suffer on One-itis.

BASICS

Mind your body-language, tonality, and frame. Since the target is of "high-value", yours has to be projected as higher. You wanna project this the before you even to talk to her, this is why as I said earlier work the room. The best person that can help you with this is your wing, I mean that's why you guys go out as a team, you support and help each other on the improvement of each game.


I hope this was helpfull...hit me up on how it goes.

More Power and always have Fun on your sarge,

N!NJA

Wow dude, thanks a lot! Great advice. Yeah I decided just to forget about her.. I guess its easier to game a girl your don't really care about anyways, plus I'm planning on meeting lots of other girls during the holidays.

Cheers

Hackblade

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