So this HB 9.5 has been throwing me off and I can't figure this chick out at all. Here's the story: (sorry it's long but I want to fuck this chick)

I knew who she was in high school because we both ran track. She was a freshman and I was a senior and all the little freshman girls had crushes on me. Anyway fast forward 6 years and I see her outside a bar at my home town during the summer and she got hot as shit. I started running some game on her and number closed her. I didn't get a day 2 because she had to go back to school (8 hours away) but the next time she came home which was about a month later we ended up meeting at a cafe and we really hit it off. We ended up talking for over 3 hours then I time bridged so we would meet up later that night at this bar. We met at this pub and had a drink then went to a dance club and basically danced the whole night. I ended up kiss closing her then she went home. Seems like everything is going great and then this happens.

It's been tough gaming this girl because I go to school 2 hours away from our home town and she goes to school 8 hours away so the only time we could possibly hang out are holidays and she wants to hang out with her family and friends. Anyway, it kind of fizzled out just because distance but we still talked here and there then eventually not at all. So she starts talking to me on facebook again and we make plans to hang out but she flakes. So I stopped talking to her thinking I'm not gonna chase this chick too much. So we don't talk for another month or two when she sends me a message on FB (thanksgiving break) saying shes having people over her house that I should come over at 8. 8 o'clock comes around and I hear nothing from her so I drop her a text when she gets back to me an hour later she is "about to get in the shower" and we should meet at this bar around 10. So I tell her I might go a little later that I'm hangin out with some old buddies right now. I go to the bar at 1130 basically walk in and walk out bc shes not there. I left and went to a party and texted her saying to come to this party. She texts me back about 45 min later saying shes at a different bar that I should go but I wasn't about to go to a 2nd bar to find her not there again. The night ended and the next day I texted "hey you know what would be fun? If we actually hang out sometime." (AFC I know). She doesn't text back.

Now it's winter break and she facebook IMs me and says "papabear? that suites you well" and she goes on to tell me about how she was in spain and coming home soon. I ended the convo saying I wanted to go play in the snow (we have 18in of snow right now). I don't know what to do because this chick is someone I would def date and I very RARELY say that but she keeps flaking on me then showing IOIs then flaking. She is always the one to restart convos after weeks or months of not talking but she flakes 24/7. Is this salvageable or should I just move on? How should I play this? Sorry this was long.

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Excuse me papa Bear but I have to laugh-LOL . Good thing you didnt catch the bait and venue change to the 2nd. bar she'd suggested;that would've been over wussy(lol)!!!
She's really trying to see if you are the leading man or not.

But the prob' is that you've telegraphed too much interest in meetin up with her. You did play it right by telin her to meet you at... and that you're out with friends-means you have social life other than tryin get her.

You may be doing more chasing than waiting. Let her chase you some more as she did by inviting you to... Stop showing her that you're that interested in a day 2.

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Nice story dude. To bad you didn't closed before, but hey we are all learning.

Not sure if this helps you because my game is kind of fresh, but this is what i would have done.

She likes you, since you've kissed and shes giving you IOIs. Now is holiday break and a lots of parties going on. Try to make it to the same party, with her and some friends or without, and just demonstrate high value. In the begining just go talk to a bunch of people (girls if possible) and slightly ignore her (but not to much so she dont get pissed off). Make sure she notices that there are other girls that likes you.

Later same night ingage a conversasion with her. Tell her that you kind of have been ignoring her, but i really would like to talk with her. Since you already been out with her before and have a history, you can skip the reportbuilding and go on to talk about the fact that she has been traveling outside UK(to catch up), which is pretty cool, and so on... Remember to kino-ping her and just be touchy, express great energi and sexuality. You should get personal after a while. (Like how she feels about traveling and blablabla)

After that you can direct the conversation to the fact that you would like to talk more, suggest that two of you meet up and do something together, and tell her that she cant just bail on you like she did before. You can even tell that she has changed (good change) and ask her if she is that person that always promises/lies a bunch of things but actually never gets it done.

And just see how it goes from there. If you run it perfectly she might even be so aroused that she will give it up to you the same night (if she's a 9, she prob wont but you never know).

Actually same thing happened to me on wendsday when i got back to hometown from school and ended making out with a hottie from the old class. We did not had sex, i simply told her that if we did it, it would prob. be the worst sex ever (both were drunk) and i dont want it to be weird for both of us (because we sort of have history).

Instead i suggested we come back to sex another time, which shes agreed to. She called me up very next day.

Let me know how it goes, hope this is any help.

Human Freak.

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Hey Hobbit,I like how you get straight to the point about sending passive aggressive msgs. Great advice for the posters.

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Hey thanks for the input guys. I like the straight to the point stuff. You don't ever have to sugar coat anything with me. I would rather get ripped a new asshole and learn something then not learn. I'm just going to play some long term game with this chick and basically not give a fuck. If she starts chasing me then great and if not then her loss.

Quick question. If she asks me to hang out again how should I respond? I'm thinking of something along the lines of "I'm actually going out with my friends tonight maybe another time" or should I say something that shows like I'm not interested at all?

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I think it is for you to decide. Think of last time you two were suppose to meet. If she blew you of, you should control the frame and tell her that you already have plans but suggest to re-arrenge the meet.

If you blew her off and she is asking you now, its probably good to say yes (she clearly is interested right?). If you do that, it might be smart to pm her a couple of hours before the meeting saying "Hey babe (usual words)... just wanna let you know i might be a bit late, because i have another arrangement (just make up an excuse that shows her your value).

That way, if her plans are to blow you off again(just for revenge), she might take the bait and cancel it (it will save you time and stress to get ready).

Otherwise, just do what you said. While learning we all will fail sometimes, and it can be himuliating. But whats matters is how you deal with. Good luck, hope it works out for you.

Human Freak.

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lets not get execited and over do it now(playing hard to get).

Your intentions are to fucc this chic(pardon the French) so you cannot be too passive nor too busy or she may start thinking that you're not interested.

Don't look for the invite from her. Why don't you suggest? You should say,hey Im going out with some friends tonight,it'd be cool if you come long.

Frame it as though you were going out anyway and you're just inviting her. Don't let her invite you to anything.

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The problem now is I don't go home for the whole winter break because I am an athlete and I train near the town where I go to school (about 2 hours away from home) but I do go home here and there. Obviously for christmas and stuff like that. So should I set up an event with my buddies (party, going out to the bars, etc) and invite her along? The only problem with that is I'll basically be going home just for that reason.

Or

The other option I have is to wait until this chick comes home for summer. I live in a beach resort town that is dead in the winter and CRAZY in the summer. Also during the summer my friends and I own our town. We're lifeguards on the beach, we throw the best parties, the cops leave us alone, we know all the bouncers/bartenders blah blah blah whatever. Basically it will be way easier in the summer but then I have to wait until then. Not to talk myself up like I'm the shit or anything I'm just saying it's easier in the summer because there's stuff to do literally every single night and in the winter it's pretty dead with the exception of the locals.

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Wow,I like the summer prospects you got going on and the life guard thing. I would opt for the summer but it depends on if you can wait.

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Yea the summer scene is unreal when it comes to HBs but growing up there has really hurt my game in the long run. I never really had a need to have game b/c it's vacation for everyone they are just lookin to get crazy and have a good time. I THOUGHT my game was tight until I went out in the real world and was shocked to find out I couldn't just walk up to any girl and get their numbers. That's why I got into PU because I'm trying to be able to get hotties wherever I am. As for the chick we've been talking about I'll just see how it goes when I go home here and there. If a good opportunity comes up for me to go out with friends I'll invite her along if not I'll wait until summer. This chick is hot as hell but more importantly this is a good chance for me to practice my mid-game which is where I struggle the most (obviously). Thanks for all the input and I'll keep you guys posted on my progress.

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So here's the update...

we texted back and forth now what?

Me: so I know you were disappointed when you didn't find me under your tree but how was the rest of christmas...

her: lol yes I was. Ha but it was alright got some good things from santa. On my way to AC to get some dinner with the family then gamble a little. Was mr. Saint nick good to u?

me: yea santa loved me this year! you should come up to west chester before you go back to school it's so much fun...good luck gambling! make some money so you can take me out!

her: lol shouldn't you be taking me out if I come up? (west chester is 2 hours away from where our hometown is and it is where I go to school)

me: if you come to wc I'll def take you out but you have to do my laundry lol

her: Ha in ur dreams papa!

me: I think you might change your mind once you smell my laundry detergent it's amazing. I'm going back to wc for good on monday so hit me up when you want to come up.

no reply for about an hour

her: If no one has plans for New Years heading to philly- bourbon blue in manayunk and have a place to stay should be fun.


So I'm not too sure what to do because she's flaked twice before and I already have a number of things I could do on New Years. Also it seemed like this could be a mass text.

I'm thinking about saying something along the lines of "Are you asking me out on a date? if you are I'll go otherwise there's a lot of things going on in WC."
Or
something along the lines of "hey when we hung out I had a good time and I think we could have a lot of fun together. I got your text about new years but I only want to go as your date."

Do you think those come off needy or showing too much interest? I'm trying to be as direct as possible in my game now so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, My house and the house downstairs are having a big party together for NYE and we live a 3 min walk to all the bars in west chester so I really don't give a fuck if I hang out with this girl or not and I want her to know that without coming off like a dick.

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