It is 2:45am in North Atlanta. I just drove 20 minutes from the club and want to write this before I forget, so please bear w/ me as I type half awake and really tired....


OK kiddies... I went to a Latin club tonight..The night did NOT end well... I got there and met up with my best friend and his G.friend. While there I saw a bunch of people I knew. (Social proof... check). And I am having a good time.... (Smile...check).

Approach #1... totally ignored me.. No biggie I knew I had all night and she was but an HB5 (Is there such a thing?)

Anyways I danced with some of the girls of my group and there was this beautiful HB8, (lets call her The Cuban Girl)... she was with some dude (call him AFC).. Since no one bothered to introduce us and she was part of the group I introduced myself .. I asked her and the guy ... "How do you know each other?".. Turns out they were just friends.

Great, so now I take this girl out to the dance floor. I negged her on her necklace and shoes.. She is responding well... After 15 minutes of dancing we sat down and I am about to do the CUBE... Here is when the isht started.

The AFC who was sitting with her comes up to us from the other side of the table and says to her in a loud voice over the music.. "Tu eres una puta" (translation to all my non-Spanish speaking readers...) "You're a whore" ...................Them is fighting words...

Apparently he's been trying to get w/ her but she does not want him...

But she tells him to get lost and he leaves.. We continue our conversation and are getting along well... Fast forward 2 minutes... He comes back and the same thing happened... "You're a whore"--- In Spanish... then he quickly left...
This time I let the Puerto Rican in me get a hold of me... big huge mistake...

I went to him and AMOGed him by putting my hand on his shoulder... and then said the following to him (in Spanish)... "Listen man, I don't know what your problem is but do not address the girl that I'm talking to like that again" ...

To which he replied "we'll go at it anytime"

I said "How about now?" and my Krav Maga instinct took over. NOT GOOD.. NOT NOW...

I got violent first but the way I see it he instigated it.... How many times would you let a guy call your Target a WHORE when you are sitting with her??? So to the floor he goes... thanks to me and my dumb ass...

I get kicked out by security, she comes out to tell the officers it's not my fault but Security will not be let back in the club... . I give her my number with the cop standing there in between us... then get in my car and drive home... Will she call me? I don't really care as this was not about her but a disrespectful AFC.

So here is what I learned tonight and what you all should learn by reading this long ass post.... If some dude gets confrontational in a club setting .... GET THE SECURITY AND GET---- HIM---- KICKED OUT. Do NOT handle it yourself...

Let me also say this... Two years ago I would have been too much of a bitch to walk up to this guy taller and bigger than me (which he was) and confront him.. But thanks to my Krav Maga training I did not feel any fear AT ALL....

I feel stupid for letting my emotions get the best of me... That is NOT what a PUA would do.... Not in a club setting... But out on the street, I know an ALPHA male would just go APE SHIT on the AFC who disrespects the girl you are sarging since that is a complete disrespect on you as well...

Please discuss and be easy on me

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I'd probably move her to another place so this guy couldn't do it again.
And yeah... never fought with someone because of a girl, shes not your girlfriend or anything.

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I completely understand why you did this, and I have been in similar situations in the past where I could have easily lost it (but luckily didn't). Ultimately as long as she is aware that you were defending her if anything it shouldn't go against you. Fair enough violence is not the way forward but sounds like this other guy was a class A twat!! Hope it works out with the girl... Take it easy.

T

Yo i completely know what you mean..trust me been there too(similar end result for me)..but what you could do next time is when he says summin like that to her and starts to walk away bring him into the conversation..make him stay and then talk smart and to the point so you let the girl know ur gonna protect her, and then let the guy start getting tough play it cool and sit there, once you make your point ignore him and talk to the girl, that will send him raging, then its jus a matter of doing what you yourself said, get security to chuck him out.

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The Best way is to call the security and get him kicked out, Period. Being an Alpha Male doesn't mean getting into a fight with some random guy for some random girl that you just met ! Its infact AFC to attach feelings for a girl that you've just met. You know nothing about her, probably she was playing him before you got there, or whatever.

Alpha Male is a protector of loved ones and there are more than one ways of doing that. A girl is not worth for you getting kicked out of a club. Go Figure !!

mixed feelings on this one cuz if u go a security guard u kinda look like a little taddle tale kid from elementary. but like what happened if u deal wit it yourself u get kicked out..i wouldnt beat yourself up over it i would done the same thing probably!

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hey dude,

me and my wing were in a similar situation not long ago...

me and my wing just chilling out on a night of sarging in our favorite bar. 5 minutes later while sitting in, our girls came in (these are our very platonic female friends,hb10(german) and hb9(chinese), but they were just not our type so we used them as pivots when we go out with them).

We grab a few chairs and just chilled out basically. All of a sudden this creep came up and started chatting the hb10 friend of ours. We let hime do it for awhile since you don't wanne be that rude. But after a couple of minutes, she gave us the signal. My wing was the closest, so he did the "ROUTINE", if you haven't heard this before it's were you pretend to be the boyfriend of your female friend.

So he did that, but he didn't really did a good job of selling it. And he AMOGed the sh*t out of the guy, he basically embarrased him. Really harsh but it had to be done, since the guy was such a creep.

After that, we thought that was it. NOPE! He keep coming back, whispering stuff and giving like a random earing he found on the floor. It was really weird and painfull to see how that guy tried to get our friend's attention. Our HB friends left and we stayed for a couple more drinks.

The guy then approached us then, and started to wind up and annoy my wing who AMOGed him. Telling him that he would be a good candidate for a tranny, he should have his hair done (while messing up his hair, such a douche thing to do), he was basically provoking him. He was stupid, since I know my wing is a competitive Muay Thai fighter, and he's thai aswell so he doesn't f*ck around when it comes to fighting.

But my peripherals are great, and I notice 6 guys behind us waiting for something. Guess what, they where with the guy. So I did my negotiations and said, " dude is that necessary, you know what happened and you know the girl was not interested with you 'cause your a creep. Let it go mate, if you weren't such a creep we'd probly let you have a crack at it"

my wing added, " Mate, this is our favoriote bar (touch on the shoulder), if you don't stop what you're doing, we'd have to leave" - sounds odd right? sounds like we're kinda pussying out. But no not really, our fram was way stronger than them 'cause we were just sitting and they were all agitated. have you seen Steven Seagal in one of his movies, yeah that was our frame. It's all from the Zen of Cool, from Mystery's new book. Look it up, it's an awesome new book from him.

After that, the guy left with " Haha...just remember mate, I live in Wellington. And I have more guys than you". They did left, less hostility and no violence.

So moral of my story, everything is negotiable. Being a PUA gives you the sense of frame and confidence that is uncanny that it just sets you above the rest. Martial Arts is a good backup plan, but for me who have nothing, Fear is a good asset in terms of survival. Use your social savy.

If all else fails, get the security. Which we can since we know everyone in the bar staff and the security staff.

Good luck with the girl mate
I hope she atleast buy you coffee

Quick update...

Thanks for all the responses. Brutally honest truth is what I expect and I feel it's what you guys have given me. That's part of what this community is all about.

Now on to the update, I received a call next day from the HB8. She tells me she tried to call me as soon as I left to leave with me. But my damn phone battery was depleted so I could not get her calls. She admitted to me she tought I was stupid for not getting security but at the same time she was impressed that I took is upon myself to put this guy in his place.

We talked for a few minutes and hung up. She showed a vague desire to see me again. I did not respond to her vagueness.

Now,,, I get a call from a mutual female friend. She wants me to go out with her tomorrow AND the HB8 is coming with her... Just us three on NYE... HB8 suggested it...

Lesson learned.... KEEP YOUR PHONE BATTERY FULLY CHARGED... And DO NOT respond to vagueness.

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