^ . . . And as predicted, Trixy is back to 1 and 2 on the cycle. Now watch as he does this again, again, and again . . .

To those of you who might be quick to point your finger and laugh, ask yourself if there's a little bit of Trixy in you. I'd say that "Trixys" make up nearly half of this forum. Admitting and accepting is the first step. Correcting is the next. . .

You've seen 60 year crazy dudes in your neighborhood do this same act over and over again . . . "Hell yeah I get the ladies! Whooo wee! Well, I was about this close to being a millionaire! My God, I dated this Playboy bunny! I told her I was done with her cause I'm dating Miss Penthouse and she went to the institute! Yeaaaa yeah . . . What? What you say boy!?!? You don't believe me! Why I ought to knock you one beside the head cause I done what I say!" (1,2,3,4,5)

^^^This is you in a mere blink of an eye.

Why is this important? This is a PU forum. To girls, some of you kids are as OBVIOUS as the 60 year old idiot example above. . . but you already knew that.

everybody lacks self esteem in some way ... there is no way to get 100 % confident or 100% bulletproof.

actually kasabi got a point and i feel no need to defend myself , however trixy got a point as well ! what is the use of this advice giving and defending.
you both are giving facts and opinions, stop comparing cocks about lacking self esteem ....

everybody lacks self esteem to some degree otherwise we wouldn't be affected by some experiences in life , everybody feels bad when their GF cheats on them , everybody is affected by people who tell you you can't do something - you can pretend like you don't care but deep down inside you know better. even the climber who climb k1 have little conversations of quitting in their mind

nobody is perfect ... and you don't have to defend yourself, you can be who you want to be - you just can tell kasabi you disagree.
you can tell anyone the truth in their face but they choose if they like it or not , what works for some people doesn't work for others and often that includes the truth( about self reflection).

there will always be 2 persons in our mind

and above all we are still learning......

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Self-esteem is part of your ego. Self-esteem mainly consists of praises of others towards you. I don't think I would be wrong saying majority of people on this forum want a hot girlfriend so others would look up to them.
Funny thing is, that's not how your ego works. You get one thing, you want something else.

Get rid of that ego, you'll find out it's much more freeing living as you, a human being instead of some POO AH people think gets loads of pussy. but what if you don't? Oops, your ego will smack your ass and you'll feel down.

Read Liquid Blends article on worthlessness. You'll see what I mean. the-value-of-worthlessness-just-a-thought-vt57525.html

And as predicted, you disregard what I say completely. I tell you I'm not misogynous when you were criticising me for it, now I'm doing #1 and #2 apparently. If I actually knew you or had respect for you you'd be #1 and #2 annoying me. I'm nothing like that '60 year old guy' you described. You don't even know me, you're just making assumptions. You get a kick out of this or something? You quote me daily and tell me I'm doing this that and the other.

I already know what you're going to say, getting angry and can't take criticism. Just a kid who needs people to feed his ego and let the world know how great he is. Yeah, you keep thinking that. Because I know (not think) it's not true

So hang on, this thread has gone through a lot of twist and turns.

Kasabi, what is the point in your advice ? Are you just telling us 'kids' who may lack self of esteem to STOP learning game, trying to improve our social ability, and go restart somewhere ?

Great, except, if we fucked up ourselves or our social abiltiy once, what's to say we won't just make the same mistakes again ?

Now I'm not saying this all applies to me - no, I've not had a lot of success with girls, but in regards to social circles I'm a highly popular person who's got a lot going for them. It was just dealing with Relationships I didn't get into early enough.

Ok, so you've said we should drop our PUA routines (which btw I've never tried, I prefer the Natural Game concepts, with a few lines thrown in here and there).

I for one think that Game has helped so many decent blokes who were just lost and it seems as if you're trying to put down people who are trying to better themselves ?

I've probably just completely made a mess of this post by mis-understanding what you're trying to do, so if you would please kindly show me how you're trying to help, I'd be really grateful, BECAUSE I want to learn.

Trixy ^5

This is a GREAT FUCKING post. This means that you are thinking. This means you are strategizing. This means you will progress . . .

My advice is to stop "what you think is game" if you want to progress to another level. Isn't this just logical? If you want to improve or change ANYTHING, wouldn't you need to CHANGE from where you are now?

Trixy and others like him "think" they are up to something worth while but all they've shown through their own words is that they spin in a stagnant cycle of ignorance.

If you've noticed, all the zeros on this board LOOK SPECIFICALLY for ANY BIT of ANYTHING on the forum that validates what ever the shit that they are doing already. What they are saying is, "I am not that bad . . I am not that bad. . . everybody in my real life thinks I am a piece of shit but they are ALLLLLL WRONG . . ." What they are saying is, "Oohhhhh . .. .Ouchhh . . . why does everybody hate me??? Wah, wah, wah . . . I am not bad and I will prrrrooooove it!!!!"

What they don't realize is that even "other's" views of us is merely a BLIP in time. As soon as we make a correction, so will their perception of us. All I am asking is what you've already done. I am suggesting that we all try to be more mindful of who we are, where we are . . . and where we'd like to be. Once we do this, everything changes . .. .

You are saying that you WANT to move forward. Go right ahead.

Trixy demonstrates idiocy and defends it . . . He wants to stay where he is while he complains about it. Many people are this way. I'm sure you know plenty of these zeros in real life. If you want to progress, leave them behind; they can only hold you back . . .

All forms of hatred are outward manifestations of self-loathing -- attempts to obviate ourselves of responsibility for our own wrong-headed views and actions. I think that this moment in history will come to be known as the era of sociopathic behaviors; precious few people seem willing to accept personal responsibility or admit their wrongs. But we always have a choice. While we can't always choose what happens to us, we can absolutely always decide how we will respond to, and file away, our experiences. We all need to look within. Meditation helps a great deal, both in shedding the ego and in gaining a clearer sense of our true and best selves. If we are at peace with ourselves, we will be at peace with those around us. We will be passionate, we will be loving.

Cherish yourself. Cherish women. Cherish humanity. Cherish nature. Meditate. Shed the ego. Learn true humility.

Peace.

Ok, now you're being a tool. Get this into your head. I post on this forum to better myself. I listen to everyone's advice because better people than me can help me. I got to Britain's on a video game called Age of Empires III not because I blamed my losses for external factors like their country having an advantage, but MYSELF, and listening to the experts.

I do not want to stay where I am and validate myself, because quite frankly I do not care what a name on a PUAforum thinks of me; I just find it annoying how you keep trying to label me a kid, because all I did was reject your advice of not taking numbers because I know my method words too. Just because I get the girl's number does not mean I am going to get with her. Just because I give my number out doesn't mean I am going to get with her.

Every one of my topics on this forum have been asking for advice, and I've come a long way with these forums reading opinions and such.

If you have CONSTRUCTIVE advice, give it and I will choose heed or disregard it, otherwise stop going on about how I want the world to know about myself. Trolling is not cool.

and we should all commmit to buddhism .. self reflection w00t.

realizing again how fucked up this community is lol

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Kasabi what would your tips be for a guy who's starting out in this community who doesn't want to become this. I'm still new to this all but I generally do believe I'm getting started for the right reasons. I have a lot of really good friends, both male and female. However, I've never been good with women. To be honest I think it has more to do with my own difficulties when it comes to trusting people with that side of me. I've gone through some really hard times in my past, all throughout highschool and some of middle school there was a period of time in my family where I couldn't trust either of my parents. My mom drank a lot and my father just wasn't available emotionally, he acted like he was but when it came down to it he betrayed the trust of his kids without giving it so much as a second thought. I'm not going to go into that too much because I'm still new and I don't want to be the guy who poors out his problems on an internet forum lol but needless to say that situation has left me with some pretty high guards; I'm working on getting them down though. Anyway, I honestly believe I want love, and I think it's for the right reasons. I don't just want a hot girlfriend to show off to the other guys, and I don't believe it's me trying to validate myself.

However, I'm learning that my approach to this has been wrong over the years. I've been waiting around this whole time for it to "just happen" you know, a passing glance will spark up an instant connection and blah blah blah. Anyway, recently I've determined that it might be better to quit looking for that instant spark and maybe try to build something over time. In order to do this, I know I'll have to plant some seeds. However, I am afraid of one thing in this regard. I'm still a virgin, been waiting around for true love and all of that. In your opinion should I just get it over with? I mean maybe I need to demystify sex in order to find whether or not I've been doing this for egotistical reasons or for the simple fact that it would make future relationships a lot less complicated. I'm just afraid that if I start with a mindset like that I'll end up losing part of who I am, and I quite like who I am to be honest. I'm 21 now if that makes a difference.

Kasabi lad, seems obsessed with trying to prove his point through this Trix. Kasabi, what you've just posted is not innovative, it's not revolutionary, it's not law. You assume Trix is some sort of 'loser' who everybody hates, fair enough your point of view, I still don't know how you've come to that conclusion though.

He has rejected your 'values' and said 'No, I'd rather carry on doing what works for me in the real world', if this is what he is happy with what's your problem?

You assume he's lying to himself, buyt you can't know this for sure as you don't actually know him in real life. You list a flow chart of steps that these 'Keyboard jockeys' go through, and you manipulate his responses in your own mind to make it seem like he can't take criticism. No, he just doesn't bloody well agree with your view.

Besides, I think this thread is bullshit anyhow, yeah the concept of Pick up artistry is totally lost on some, then again, anyone who can grow into the game will realise that lines 'negs' are a starting point, anyone who doesn't grasp the fact that it's all about augmenting the positives of 'game' and fusing these positives with your OWN personality in order to become a better person, is lost.

On the other hand, there are people in this world who don't actually like other people, as rediculous as this might sound, they have the ability to turn on their 'charm' when it suits them best. There are people in this world who genuinely don't care if they're liked or not, but will still conform and mould themselves a persona that is capable of getting along with people. In the crudest way possible, if a guy wants to get laid, and has reasonable charm, he'll conform, socialise and achieve his objective. There's nothing deep to it. That is precisely what most of the people on here want, you can't call them out on that.

People have different aims in life, live your life, make up your rules with regards to yourself, not to others.

*Haven't posted here in aeons, but I had to post in this one *

I disagree. Perhaps you didnt read his post clearly. He never pointed the finger at anyone but himself and his (prior) belief that women were above the flaws of men. I agree with the rest of your post and your original post, but "because" doesnt automatically mean you are pointingf the blame at others.

EX: These are clearly not conveying the same message but they both use "because":

1) I didnt succeed with women BECAUSE they are evil hellspawns

2) I didnt succeed with women BECAUSE I was affraid to approach

Notice that the first applies to your examples while the second puts blame on the individual, where it truely belongs.

I am glad I came across this post. Just a few hours back I was thinking of this aquaintance of mine who is a great girl. she is the kind of girl who would walk into a room and every one would LIKE her. Girls would want her to be around and guys would love to talk to her. But she has been single for the past 3-4 yrs and I was wondering if she is that great then why is the world is she still single.

What is going on there and I just couldn't put a finger on anything. I think I knew at the back of my head what Kasabi just said but reading the post helped me word it. And yes she comes across a lot of guys in her daily life, hence iether she is waiting for a soul mate or something is there that I can't figure out.

That motivates me to get to know her a little better and probably date her. Again the thought of dating her sacres me because she is VERY NICE (or as it appears). Actually while I'm on the subject of dating I just realised that I can picture her as a friend but she does not EVER GIVE OUT ANY SEXUAL VIBES. I DONT THINK I HAVE EVER SEEN HER GIVE OUT ANY SEXUAL VIBES TO ANYONE AT ALL !!! I THINK SHE IS ATTRACTIVE BUT NOT IN A SEXUAL WAY. HHMMMmmm.... Am I sounding foolish, does anyone get what I'm saying ?

I don't give a shit if i'm a misogynist even if i'm not, i just find views on women skewed on the most part. I am perfectly entitled to think the way i do based on experience. No ones ever going to know how or why i think the way i do because on the face of things you treat everyone in a fun and lighthearted manner, it just so happens that most girls i see on a day to day basis are very easy to game.

Fair enough, if she proves otherwise and has respect and confidence in herself then i will see her as an equal, but the vast majority do not and will not have my respect.


Let's be fair, those who know me know i'm good at game. Those who i know that are good at game all share common traits. They are absolutely ruthless in what they pursuit. You don't get anywhere in this game without conviction. And that conviction requires logic. The logic, they realise, is that women require sex just as much as men. No big deal, they're not misogynist. So you'd think, however, society would view them as disrespecting females, 'you treat women like objects yada yada yada'. My point is, you just don't let people know you're in the community. Everyone who doesn't understand the 'PUA scene' is more or less reading from the same forcefed hymnbook so its wise to just manipulate this into your own will, as the PUA's i know do.

Well, those who fail? They don't detach themselves from reality, they don't see that it really is just a game where logic prevails and any real emotion is a rare commodity which should be treasured. It's Age of Empires 3 baby , and the game is your life.